Doesn't matter that we took him off that boat, Shepherd, it's the place he's going to live from now on.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


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A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Alibelle - Nov 02, 2002 1:28:32 pm PST #167 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

What a wonderful essay, Holli! And I'd so totally accept you. In fact, right now I'm even thinking of transferring to Haverford. Except I'm really lazy, so forget that.

I don't think you really need to include your fear about the essay before yours, but it doesn't hurt anything, and it leads to your hilarious camel, which I've grown attached to, so yeah... where was I going with this?

I hope I get a chance to.

I would change this sentence so that it doesn't end in a preposition, especially since it's the last sentence of the essay, where it will be remembered most. You could even change it to just "I hope I get a chance to do so" and it would be fine.


erikaj - Nov 02, 2002 2:04:36 pm PST #168 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Holli! good work. They'd have to be on monkey crack not to take you.


Beverly - Nov 02, 2002 3:02:07 pm PST #169 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I want to go to Haverford. I think it worked.


John H - Nov 02, 2002 4:40:27 pm PST #170 of 10001

Very nice indeed, Holli.

A couple of points:

I live in constant fear that the application you read before mine will belong to someone so brilliant and accomplished that, in comparison, I will look even shabbier than I am.

I feel that "shabby" isn't the right word here. "Shabby" to me only means dressed in old clothes, scruffy, untidy. I'm sure the college is happy for you to be dressed in old clothes! I'm thinking it would read better as "I will look less [something] than I really am" -- plus, expressed that way, you're not putting yourself down.

I hope I get a chance to.

I agree that this sentence could do with reforming. People are still snobby about the preposition thing. Also it just kind of falls flat at seven short syllables. I think it would be better, and somehow ring better, as "I hope I get that chance".

Note also that the first sentence in that par ends in a preposition.

a place that I despair at being good enough for.

You might, for instance, say something like "Haverford’s Honor Code makes an already amazing campus so [great,wonderful,welcoming etc] that I despair at being good enough for it."? That's clunky too, but you see what I mean.

But they're only tiny tiny quibbles because you asked -- it's fun and easy to read, and the spirit of the thing somes through just fine already.


DavidS - Nov 02, 2002 5:13:03 pm PST #171 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I loved it Holli. I don't think they'd be allowed to refuse you after that.


Hil R. - Nov 02, 2002 5:28:55 pm PST #172 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I liked it a lot, Holli. Something about the phrase "despair at being good enough for" is bugging me, though. Maybe "long to be good enough for it"? Or wish, or hope? Or maybe even "despair of" rather than "despair at."


Theodosia - Nov 03, 2002 6:57:16 am PST #173 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'd go with "despair of being good enough". Good essay, as they've all said.


Alibelle - Nov 06, 2002 9:22:37 pm PST #174 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

My writing class told me that I had to add anvils to my story. I don't want to. Does anyone have any suggestions for revising a fairy tale-ish story so that people who don't read fairy tales, or remember them, will be familiar with the allusions? And I'm not talking about more obscure fairy tales like The Six Swans, but fairy tales like Jack and the Bean Stalk. (Is bean stalk one word or two? Hmm.)


DavidS - Nov 06, 2002 10:34:40 pm PST #175 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Does anyone have any suggestions for revising a fairy tale-ish story so that people who don't read fairy tales, or remember them, will be familiar with the allusions?

Sure. You can toss off a few background details which reinforce the fairytale connection. Jack the Giant Killer. Beans. Cow. Stalk. "Stalking a cow across a bean field with jack cheese." Just throw that sentence in there and they no longer have an excuse to not get it.


Alibelle - Nov 06, 2002 10:41:23 pm PST #176 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

The fairy tale connection is explicitly stated, and I've referenced the fairy tales. People just wanted in-story synopses. I think I've just talked myself into ignoring their ignorant butts. It's not my fault if they don't remember basic fairy tales. If they don't get the allusion, that's their loss.