You two carried me through that war. Now I need you to carry me just a little bit further. If you can.

Tracy ,'The Message'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Sep 14, 2006 6:38:09 am PDT #8014 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

new Survivor

Woo hoo! Bring on the controversy!


brenda m - Sep 14, 2006 6:43:38 am PDT #8015 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Survivor? Yay!

Signs you may be getting into a rut:

Called C last night from the bus to see if she wanted to meet for a drink. I left her a voicemail since she was apparently still at the gym (damn her). She called me back a few minutes later and we figured out that we should both arrive at about the same time. Perfect!

Except for the fact that she had accidentally listened to my voicemail from last week when I was on my way home from work and she was at the gym, and when I had suggested the other of our two regular bars, so as it turned out, we ended up each waiting at a different bar about a mile apart. Oops.


Sean K - Sep 14, 2006 6:44:32 am PDT #8016 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Probst was just on the radio talking about the controversy with the morning show guys out here, it was really funny listening to him detail the differences between people who have a well thought out and well presented issue about the new season and its "controversy", and the people who have clearly never watched the show or know what it's about and who just want to use it as an excuse to loudly thump their own personal race issue in some moronic way. Unfortunately his experience has been that the latter is much more common than the former.

He also mentioned that he's a little irritated that, in the mass media, it's the loud, uninformed morons who are getting the loudest megaphones.


Dana - Sep 14, 2006 6:47:28 am PDT #8017 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Bravo's website is not functioning this morning. I want my Tim's podcast!


Gudanov - Sep 14, 2006 6:48:25 am PDT #8018 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I don't like the county newspaper I get (not subscribed to, they just started mailing it to me). The last one's front page article was about how people who oppose the Iraq war are unpatriotic and should shut up, just like the people who opposed the Vietnam war should have shut up (plus a lot of stuff about flag-waving, supporting the president, and how the war was started by our enemies not by us). Okay, annoying, but really, comparing the Iraq war to the Vietnam war isn't a good way to make the case that war opponents should shut up..


Jessica - Sep 14, 2006 6:50:45 am PDT #8019 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

He also mentioned that he's a little irritated that, in the mass media, it's the loud, uninformed morons who are getting the loudest megaphones.

Oh irony, thy name is Probst. (Not that I don't love the show, but without loud uninformed morons and the mass media, he'd be out of a job.)

I think the race thing will play out in much the same way that the gender thing has in the past -- carefully edited embarrassing stereotypes from all sides on display for about three minutes before the tribes get reshuffled and everyone moves on and forms new alliances based on rational strategic reasons like who happens to be awake and getting water at the same time as you on the fourth day, and who you think is hot.


Sue - Sep 14, 2006 6:52:54 am PDT #8020 of 10001
hip deep in pie

So is it being nicknamed Survivor: Apartheid everywhere, or only in the little corner of the web I inhabit.


Jesse - Sep 14, 2006 6:54:47 am PDT #8021 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I like Survivor: Race Wars, which I think came from Gothamist.

Bravo's website is not functioning this morning. I want my Tim's podcast!

Seriously.

The last one's front page article was about how people who oppose the Iraq war are unpatriotic and should shut up, just like the people who opposed the Vietnam war should have shut up (plus a lot of stuff about flag-waving, supporting the president, and how the war was started by our enemies not by us).

Seriously?!?


Sean K - Sep 14, 2006 6:56:31 am PDT #8022 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

(Not that I don't love the show, but without loud uninformed morons and the mass media, he'd be out of a job.)

The way he talked about it, I think that irony is not lost on him.

before the tribes get reshuffled and everyone moves on and forms new alliances based on rational strategic reasons like who happens to be awake and getting water at the same time as you on the fourth day, and who you think is hot.

He also made reassuring noises that there will plenty of this, just like any other Survivor.


Nutty - Sep 14, 2006 7:03:39 am PDT #8023 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

comparing the Iraq war to the Vietnam war isn't a good way to make the case that war opponents should shut up..

This is what I was going to say. People who opposed the Vietnam War? Hey, they were kinda right! And wait, who negotiated US troops out of that country? A republican! (And who got us into that mess? A democrat! TWO democrats!!)