Actually the two characters in the Bible (yes, I am continuing to treat it as a narrative) I have the most sympathy with are Lucifer Morningstar and Judas Iscariot.

For me, it was Thomas. Maybe because we share the same name, but also because the "doubting Thomas" message is that it's bad to be skeptical....

Whoo, new thread.

Still 900 posts behind in the old one. Bleh.

huh, I never knew that Lucifer had a last name. Thought he was like Prince.

I may have got that from a comic book.

most sympathy with are Lucifer Morningstar and Judas Iscariot. In both cases, they were merely doing their Part in the Plan, and really got the crap end of the deal for their troubles

I always feel sorry for Judas, too. But according to theologians I've talked to, his sin was his suicide, which showed he didn't have faith that God had meant it to happen. Though the church through history has always portrayed him as a great betrayer instead of being faithless.

Doesn't Lucifer mean "Morningstar"?

so, less like Prince and more like Boutros Boutros Ghali?

I think Lucifer literally means "light bringer"

I always feel sorry for Judas, too. But according to theologians I've talked to, his sin was his suicide

Then there's also the sin of inspiring the name of a heavy metal band....

so, less like Prince and more like Boutros Boutros Ghali?

Hee!

I am having trouble writing something at work. It's a summary of stuff that the people reading it will already know. So I don't want to say too much, but then I can't just skip it altogether, because it gives the context for the rest. Eh. "So, remember how you had toast for breakfast? Wasn't that good??"

I'm betting Lucifer doesn't really look anything like Viggo Mortensen. Damn.

Actually, I'd love to see that Lucifer talking to W:

Bush: This war is mine!

Lucifer: Your war is arrogance. That makes it evil. And that's mine.

Bush: Lucifer. Sitting in your basement. Sulking about your break up with the boss. You're nothing.

Lucifer: Time to come home, Georgie.

(Which...honestly, to me, doesn't seem to make anyone come off any better. God is a psychotic terrorist, and Job is a ex-wannabe-prostitute with Stockholm syndrome and daddy issues?)

Well, again, it's a question of metaphor and meaning vs. plot mechanics, but I also know that it's a pretty upsetting story no matter how you come at it. I'm just twisted enough to enjoy the metaphor and the fucked-upness and all, but I don't expect to be able to convince anyone else that because that's how I feel about it, they ought to too. Just sayin that's my read, is all.