Shh! I kinda wanna hear me talking right now!

Glory ,'The Killer In Me'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Aug 02, 2006 10:20:26 am PDT #43 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I see the Bible in general as a recording of a people's history, law, and wisdom and the wisdom parts in particular are conveyed through stories. So the story of Job and of Abraham and Issac don't really seem so terrible to me. The wisdom is the part to take out of it rather than the story.

However, I find people who insist that every word of the Bible is literally true to be odd. In that context, killing off someone's children because God is making a bet with Satan is pretty darn distrubing.

Of course that are many people who think I need to be fixed to see divinity instead of humanity in those stories and histories, but I don't see it, it's not in my worldview. Still an interesting book though.


Vortex - Aug 02, 2006 10:21:35 am PDT #44 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I watch Colbert from time to time but leave with the feeling I'm being yelled at.

It's why I don't watch Colbert. It's funny occasionally , but he totally wears it out.


Sean K - Aug 02, 2006 10:21:44 am PDT #45 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Aw, Sean, don't make me repost my cracky V theory again, please?

I liked the theory, though. Even if it is cracktastic.

Actually the two characters in the Bible (yes, I am continuing to treat it as a narrative) I have the most sympathy with are Lucifer Morningstar and Judas Iscariot. In both cases, they were merely doing their Part in the Plan, and really got the crap end of the deal for their troubles.


Vortex - Aug 02, 2006 10:22:35 am PDT #46 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

huh, I never knew that Lucifer had a last name. Thought he was like Prince.


sumi - Aug 02, 2006 10:23:12 am PDT #47 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Doesn't Lucifer mean "Morningstar"?


Jessica - Aug 02, 2006 10:24:31 am PDT #48 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Besides, even God needs a Secret Pain, don't you think? Okay, possibly that is blasphemy, but I like to think it is empathetic blasphemy!

Wouldn't this support JZ'a God-as-V theory?

(Which...honestly, to me, doesn't seem to make anyone come off any better. God is a psychotic terrorist, and Job is a ex-wannabe-prostitute with Stockholm syndrome and daddy issues?)


Connie Neil - Aug 02, 2006 10:24:39 am PDT #49 of 10001
brillig

However, I find people who insist that every word of the Bible is literally true to be odd. In that context, killing off someone's children because God is making a bet with Satan is pretty darn distrubing.

This is my primary reason for dissecting Job--which God managed not to do. My real appreciation for Job is the poetry describing the glory of creation. I can see the metaphorical points, but I deal with too many Bible-literalists to be able to handwave the details anymore.


Aims - Aug 02, 2006 10:24:46 am PDT #50 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

So the line of vegetarian foods is actually Lucifer Farms? EVIL MEAT SUBSTITUTE! That tastes of tomato basil hamburger!


Sean K - Aug 02, 2006 10:24:53 am PDT #51 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

However, I find people who insist that every word of the Bible is literally true to be odd. In that context, killing off someone's children because God is making a bet with Satan is pretty darn distrubing.

This, among many other things in the book. It's this same literalism that produces in some (too many) people this orgiastic glee at the idea of the End of the World.


JZ - Aug 02, 2006 10:25:11 am PDT #52 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Literary theory/Biblical analysis interrupted to say:

I'm about 5 minutes from being totally finished with all the work still on my desk waiting to be done. Which is not as woo-hoo as it sounds, because the whiniest, bellyachin'est, entitledest MD in our division has a couple hours' worth of work he hasn't bothered giving me yet. Nor has he answered my phone calls (I'm not fool enough to email him; the evidence is abundant that he doesn't give a shit about that). The more he drags his heels on this, the more hellish the tail end of my week becomes, and when he does finally get it all to me I know he'll be unpleasant about it, because such is his way.

Is it okay if I wish his whiny stuck-up works-harder-than-me-but-also-earns-four-times-my-salary ass a plague of boils and toads? Just this once?