But that's just my point! You she obeys! She obeys you! There's obeying going on right under my nose!

Wash ,'War Stories'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Aug 11, 2006 3:52:10 am PDT #1986 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Caveman or Astronaut--what possible weapons does each start out with? That's the whole thing for me.

If you're throwing a caveman, unarmed, at a former military guy, unarmed...well, the military isn't that well trained in hand to hand combat. That's why the centre does a fair chunk of training. No way we're getting everyone in the Air Force and...I think it's Army.


flea - Aug 11, 2006 4:21:13 am PDT #1987 of 10001
information libertarian

I'm amazed it took 24 hours... [link]


Jesse - Aug 11, 2006 4:21:33 am PDT #1988 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Aren't astronauts mostly pilots and engineers, anyway? Not to say they wouldn't be trained, but hand-to-hand is not their main concern in life.

I am so fucking tired, after staying up ridiculously late reading last night. I blame the Excederin I took yesterday morning. If I have an actual migraine, nothing can keep me awake, but otherwise, any extra caffeine fucks with me so bad.

That is what I blame for the fact that I just wrote a letter to the editor of the free paper, wondering why it was OK to have the words "shit" and "fuck" in a cartoon on the editorial page but not in a quote from The Big Lebowski on the next page.


Jessica - Aug 11, 2006 4:31:47 am PDT #1989 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Are we definitely assuming hand-to-hand combat? Because if the astronaut comes with a spaceship, he can just blast the caveman from space before it even becomes an issue.

We might also want to consider that modern humans are considerably larger than the average caveman, which would give the astronaut the advantage.


tommyrot - Aug 11, 2006 4:34:14 am PDT #1990 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Part of the problem is that "caveman" isn't defined. If you're talking paleolithic humans... they weren't hunting with their bare hands. Before bows there were slings and spears.

The other part of the problem is that nothing else is defined, either.

Yes. It's really about the assumptions and expectations that the people arguing about AvC bring to the debate. It's a Zen thing - to think about AvC is to discover yourself.


msbelle - Aug 11, 2006 4:42:41 am PDT #1991 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

standing in the corner with Jesse on the way too tired. too much energy last night. this morning? nsm.

although my ceo just brought me some children CDs and now I'm kinda bouncy again.

ION, 3 rooms in my house got plaster repair yesterday and today they get painted! YAY!


Daisy Jane - Aug 11, 2006 4:57:49 am PDT #1992 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I forgot after getting in this morning, to thank everyone for Vegas suggestions. We didn't get to do nearly everything we wanted, but we'll have to go back.

We did get to see someone get married on the gondola. The groom was in the bar with us right before which was cool.


Sean K - Aug 11, 2006 5:03:16 am PDT #1993 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Very tired. Second day in a row of not being able to get to sleep very well, and waking up waaaay too early.


sarameg - Aug 11, 2006 5:04:13 am PDT #1994 of 10001

Stayed up too late, morning "shower" using buckets of water warmed on stove, washing hair in sink and dashing briefly under really cold falling water does not wake me up. Makes me cranky, but does not wake me up.


Allyson - Aug 11, 2006 5:37:01 am PDT #1995 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

well, the military isn't that well trained in hand to hand combat.

Presuppose Israeli army.

Neither has a weapon at the ready.

I'm thinking of Neanderthals, which means superior physical strength, but far less agile. Also short.