Aren't astronauts mostly pilots and engineers, anyway? Not to say they wouldn't be trained, but hand-to-hand is not their main concern in life.

I am so fucking tired, after staying up ridiculously late reading last night. I blame the Excederin I took yesterday morning. If I have an actual migraine, nothing can keep me awake, but otherwise, any extra caffeine fucks with me so bad.

That is what I blame for the fact that I just wrote a letter to the editor of the free paper, wondering why it was OK to have the words "shit" and "fuck" in a cartoon on the editorial page but not in a quote from The Big Lebowski on the next page.

Are we definitely assuming hand-to-hand combat? Because if the astronaut comes with a spaceship, he can just blast the caveman from space before it even becomes an issue.

We might also want to consider that modern humans are considerably larger than the average caveman, which would give the astronaut the advantage.

Part of the problem is that "caveman" isn't defined. If you're talking paleolithic humans... they weren't hunting with their bare hands. Before bows there were slings and spears.

The other part of the problem is that nothing else is defined, either.

Yes. It's really about the assumptions and expectations that the people arguing about AvC bring to the debate. It's a Zen thing - to think about AvC is to discover yourself.

standing in the corner with Jesse on the way too tired. too much energy last night. this morning? nsm.

although my ceo just brought me some children CDs and now I'm kinda bouncy again.

ION, 3 rooms in my house got plaster repair yesterday and today they get painted! YAY!

I forgot after getting in this morning, to thank everyone for Vegas suggestions. We didn't get to do nearly everything we wanted, but we'll have to go back.

We did get to see someone get married on the gondola. The groom was in the bar with us right before which was cool.

Very tired. Second day in a row of not being able to get to sleep very well, and waking up waaaay too early.

Stayed up too late, morning "shower" using buckets of water warmed on stove, washing hair in sink and dashing briefly under really cold falling water does not wake me up. Makes me cranky, but does not wake me up.

well, the military isn't that well trained in hand to hand combat.

Presuppose Israeli army.

Neither has a weapon at the ready.

I'm thinking of Neanderthals, which means superior physical strength, but far less agile. Also short.

I'm thinking of Neanderthals, which means superior physical strength, but far less agile. Also short.

Doesn't "cavemen" imply our ancestors? Or not - I suppose Neanderthals lived in caves too....

careful about assumptions about Neandertals; the common perception is based on pretty poor anthropological work done back in the early 1900s (Jars or Flea can correct me on this). It's accepted now that they weren't the lumbering awkward types popular culture has portrayed them as.