Thanks for all the anniversary wishes! We are spending it with a sick child and possibly italian take-out.
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
I wanna die in bed surrounded by fat grandchildren, but guess that's off the menu.
Jenny ,'Bring On The Night'
Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Aims - Aug 02, 2006 6:16:22 am PDT #9897 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.
tommyrot - Aug 02, 2006 6:19:19 am PDT #9898 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
IIRC, in the Old Testament, Satan's not an enemy of goodness, but more like a pitiless prosecutor.
What did one have to do to get into heaven in Old Testament times? Or was everyone condemned to Hell until Jesus came and died on the cross?
Tom Scola - Aug 02, 2006 6:21:49 am PDT #9899 of 10002
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There isn't a heaven (or Hell) in the OT.
Frankenbuddha - Aug 02, 2006 6:23:01 am PDT #9900 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Hey, and your even on current topic.
What did one have to do to get into heaven in Old Testament times? Or was everyone condemned to Hell until Jesus came and died on the cross?
Worse - New Jersey.
Gudanov - Aug 02, 2006 6:23:02 am PDT #9901 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping
10 "Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face."
12 The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger."
This reminds me of the movie 'Trading Places', I can see God and Satan exchanging a dollar.
Nutty - Aug 02, 2006 6:23:09 am PDT #9902 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
No, I think everybody was just dead (still is, if you're a Jew!), waiting for the prophecied messiah. Who, again if you're a Jew, was not named Jesus.
I think that's why Jews are not supposed (depending on your strictness) to get earrings or tattoos, and are supposed to be buried quickly and with all the parts intact or at least present. It's a whole "Don't you want to look your best for the messiah?" thing.
Tom Scola - Aug 02, 2006 6:24:54 am PDT #9903 of 10002
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500
A few passages of the OT make reference to an afterlife-place called Sheol, which seems to be closer to the Greek concept of Hades.
Frankenbuddha - Aug 02, 2006 6:25:42 am PDT #9904 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
No, I think everybody was just dead (still is, if you're a Jew!), waiting for the prophecied messiah. Who, again if you're a Jew, was not named Jesus.
Didn't people also live a lot longer in the OT?
tommyrot - Aug 02, 2006 6:25:46 am PDT #9905 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
There isn't a heaven (or Hell) in the OT.
Yeah, I just remembered Jesus saying, "I have gone to prepare a place for you" (i.e. Heaven) or words to that effect....
tommyrot - Aug 02, 2006 6:26:32 am PDT #9906 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Didn't people also live a lot longer in the OT?
Some did. I think Noah lived to be almost 1000.