There isn't a heaven (or Hell) in the OT.
Yeah, I just remembered Jesus saying, "I have gone to prepare a place for you" (i.e. Heaven) or words to that effect....
Nothing worse than a monster who thinks he's right with God.
Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'
Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
tommyrot - Aug 02, 2006 6:25:46 am PDT #9905 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
tommyrot - Aug 02, 2006 6:26:32 am PDT #9906 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Didn't people also live a lot longer in the OT?
Some did. I think Noah lived to be almost 1000.
-t - Aug 02, 2006 6:32:37 am PDT #9907 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
"Sheol" can be interpreted to just mean grave.
Gudanov - Aug 02, 2006 6:37:17 am PDT #9908 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping
Some did. I think Noah lived to be almost 1000.
I think Job made it to about 150 years old and got replacement livestock and children for the ones stolen or killed. Some literalists say that as humans moved further away from the perfection of Adam that lifespans decreased.
Jesse - Aug 02, 2006 6:38:55 am PDT #9909 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I think Job made it to about 150 years old and got replacement livestock and children for the ones stolen or killed.
A replacement wife too, no?
GRRRR.
Gudanov - Aug 02, 2006 6:41:30 am PDT #9910 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping
A replacement wife too, no?
I don't remember. I know that his live stock were stolen and servents were killed except for one to tell him about it. I know his children were killed except one (or a servent I forget) to tell him. I don't remember what happened to his wife.
Frankenbuddha - Aug 02, 2006 6:48:39 am PDT #9911 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I think Job made it to about 150 years old and got replacement livestock and children for the ones stolen or killed.
So sorry about the kids - just testing. Here have some more. Oh, and sorry about the boils too.
Jesse - Aug 02, 2006 6:52:38 am PDT #9912 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
It's possible the story of Job just gets worse and worse in my head.
Gudanov - Aug 02, 2006 6:55:34 am PDT #9913 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping
So sorry about the kids - just testing.
Yeah, taken literally it's pretty awful. Taken as a story to make a point about the relationship with God, it seems okay even if I don't buy into it.
brenda m - Aug 02, 2006 6:59:30 am PDT #9914 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
For one reason or another, Job's wife is left untouched. At some point she intimates to her husband that he is something of a fool for sticking to his blind faith in God. She tells him to curse God and die. He rebukes her:
You talk as any wicked fool of a woman might talk. If we accept good from God, shall we not accept evil? (2,10; NEB)
It is not clear why Job's wife is spared the fate of the children. In the Epilogue to the story – although she remains nameless – she serves as a necessary vehicle for the continuation of Job's line.