Ah, Job. The book of the bible that says "God is kind of a jerk sometimes, just because he wants to be. That's how He rolls. Deal with it."
I suppose that's one answer to the question, "Why does God let bad things happen to good people?"
Zoe: Don't think it's a good spot, sir. She still has the advantage over us. Mal: Everyone always does. That's what makes us special.
'Serenity'
Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.
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tommyrot - Aug 02, 2006 6:04:27 am PDT #9893 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
tommyrot - Aug 02, 2006 6:07:32 am PDT #9894 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
What I find interesting in Job is the fact that, far from being bound in hell, Satan's apparently wandering around footloose and fancy free and has right of entry to Heaven. And God, instead of saying, "Get away, you betrayer!" is making bar bets with the guy.
And in New Testament times, Satan is free to wander the desert where he can taunt a hungry and thirsty Jesus....
Frankenbuddha - Aug 02, 2006 6:08:55 am PDT #9895 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
What I find interesting in Job is the fact that, far from being bound in hell, Satan's apparently wandering around footloose and fancy free and has right of entry to Heaven. And God, instead of saying, "Get away, you betrayer!" is making bar bets with the guy.
Plus, he apparently gave Satan an all-access pass on Earth to tempt people so they end up going to Hell. Isn't that called "entrapment"? I wan't my lawyer! Filthy screws! Filthy screws! Tartarus! Tartarus! I'm out of order? You're out of order! The whole universe is out of order!
Heh. Inevitable buffista x-post.
Nutty - Aug 02, 2006 6:13:42 am PDT #9896 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
We can thank Milton for a lot of misconceptions about what's actually in the Bible. His version of Eve is a lot worse than the actual Bible's version. Milton's got a lot to answer for on that front, and I can only expect he is in Purgatory even now, being lessoned by his vengeful daughters.
IIRC, in the Old Testament, Satan's not an enemy of goodness, but more like a pitiless prosecutor.
Aims - Aug 02, 2006 6:16:22 am PDT #9897 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Thanks for all the anniversary wishes! We are spending it with a sick child and possibly italian take-out.
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
tommyrot - Aug 02, 2006 6:19:19 am PDT #9898 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
IIRC, in the Old Testament, Satan's not an enemy of goodness, but more like a pitiless prosecutor.
What did one have to do to get into heaven in Old Testament times? Or was everyone condemned to Hell until Jesus came and died on the cross?
Tom Scola - Aug 02, 2006 6:21:49 am PDT #9899 of 10002
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There isn't a heaven (or Hell) in the OT.
Frankenbuddha - Aug 02, 2006 6:23:01 am PDT #9900 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Hey, and your even on current topic.
What did one have to do to get into heaven in Old Testament times? Or was everyone condemned to Hell until Jesus came and died on the cross?
Worse - New Jersey.
Gudanov - Aug 02, 2006 6:23:02 am PDT #9901 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping
10 "Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face."
12 The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger."
This reminds me of the movie 'Trading Places', I can see God and Satan exchanging a dollar.
Nutty - Aug 02, 2006 6:23:09 am PDT #9902 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
No, I think everybody was just dead (still is, if you're a Jew!), waiting for the prophecied messiah. Who, again if you're a Jew, was not named Jesus.
I think that's why Jews are not supposed (depending on your strictness) to get earrings or tattoos, and are supposed to be buried quickly and with all the parts intact or at least present. It's a whole "Don't you want to look your best for the messiah?" thing.