Lorne: Snakes? Uh-huh. And they came out of your what? Okay. Okay, well, did they get up there themselves or is this part of a, you know, a thing? No, I'm not judging...Do we fight snakes? Angel: Only if they're giant. Or demons. Or giant demons. Are they giant demon snakes? Lorne: Well, unless this guy's 30 feet tall, I'm thinking they're of the garden variety.

'Lineage'


Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


megan walker - Jul 09, 2006 12:02:24 pm PDT #6015 of 10002
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

What did he do? Did it impact the outcome?

He was in a scuffle with an Italian player, when he turned to run back to the action, the guy apparently said something that made him turn back and give him a head butt in the chest. The main ref didn't see it because it was off play (we only saw it on replay), but the side ref confirmed it.

It's hard to say what would have happened had he stayed. Whitefont: Because only one French player missed his penalty kick. One might assume that Zidane would have made his. Poor Trezeguet.


-t - Jul 09, 2006 12:04:35 pm PDT #6016 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The red card was for head-butting a guy in the chest. Not during play. Totally flattened him. Italy didn't score while France was a man down, so I lean toward saying it didn't affect the outcome, though You could argue that Zidane would have made his penalty kick, I suppose.


megan walker - Jul 09, 2006 12:06:17 pm PDT #6017 of 10002
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

World Cup x-post!


flea - Jul 09, 2006 12:06:41 pm PDT #6018 of 10002
information libertarian

It was a totally assholish thing to do. It made me start rooting for Italy, when I'd been sort of even.


Narrator - Jul 09, 2006 12:07:31 pm PDT #6019 of 10002
The evil is this way?

Thanks. Is all head-butting a red card offense? I mean, head-butting someone in the head seems to me to be more egregious than head-butting in the chest.


megan walker - Jul 09, 2006 12:08:24 pm PDT #6020 of 10002
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

It was a totally assholish thing to do.

Definitely. No reason or excuse for it at all.


megan walker - Jul 09, 2006 12:10:38 pm PDT #6021 of 10002
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Is all head-butting a red card offense? I mean, head-butting someone in the head seems to me to be more egregious than head-butting in the chest.

Not sure, but I assume attacking any player off the ball is red-cardable. If you see the replay, you'll see just how utterly stupid it was. I can only assume that he was supremely frustrated by just having a beautiful header stopped by Buffon (the Italian goalie).


-t - Jul 09, 2006 12:11:19 pm PDT #6022 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Any kind of violence towards another player (that isn't going for the ball, and even that if done dangerously can get a card) is red card worthy.


megan walker - Jul 09, 2006 12:13:14 pm PDT #6023 of 10002
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

-t,

We've gotta stop meeting like this!


-t - Jul 09, 2006 12:15:52 pm PDT #6024 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Well, the World Cup is over. That should help.