Buffy: He ran away, right? Giles: Sort of, more. turned and swept out majestically, I suppose. Said I didn't concern him. Buffy: So a mythic triumph over a completely indifferent foe? Giles: Well, I'm not dead or unconscious, so I say bravo for me.

'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Jul 05, 2006 7:36:02 am PDT #5448 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I do like this column by David Cross on dealing with celebrities, from the same issue:

Thus my first and foremost guideline to dealing with celebrities: If you don’t know who he is, ask your friend. Or a stranger. Don’t ask him. And certainly don’t ask him to keep listing his résumé until you realize he’s the guy from Blade of Innocence 2 who lost his shoe and got killed by the vampire with outer-space AIDS.


Nutty - Jul 05, 2006 7:39:10 am PDT #5449 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Being paid for consistently is not something that comes easily to me.

Nor should it. I think there's a power issue embedded in who pays for things, and people don't often confront that issue head-on. I'm happy to let some people pay, but will vociferously insist on dutch with others, because of the person's attitude towards me. If I feel like I'm being shrunk down by the size of that person's wallet (or ego, or both), then allowing myself to be paid for is permission for crap behavior. Rarely, I'll be merciful to somebody who is stuck in an epoch from long ago, but I'm a lot more merciful to people actually born in that long-ago epoch than people aping the behaviors of same.

For me, who does the asking has nothing to do with who pays; both parties arrive at the event with equal footing, and it's the course of the evening that determines whether we argue over the bill.


Vortex - Jul 05, 2006 7:47:48 am PDT #5450 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

The asker pays, unless the woman does the asking—then the man should pay.

What a crock of shit!!! What kind of woman asks a man to go out with her and expects him to pay!!! Seriously, this is crap. And the kind of shit that gives women a bad name (that name being bitch). Never once does this asshole contemplate that she should pay for the whole thing. His "compromise" is that they split the bill. WTF??? Ugh. Asshole! The person who asks should pay. That's it. It would, of course, be nice if the guy said "no, let me get it", but he certainly is not required to.


Jessica - Jul 05, 2006 7:51:06 am PDT #5451 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Fie on you David Cross, FIE

Er, he only wrote the column on celebrities. The "love & sex" one was written by the New York Mag editorial staff.


Vortex - Jul 05, 2006 7:55:47 am PDT #5452 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

oh, dear. umm. unfie on you, David Cross, UNFIE!.


Pix - Jul 05, 2006 8:00:53 am PDT #5453 of 10002
The status is NOT quo.

t waves

I have teh funny to share with you all. Apparently OKCupid ran a contest for "favorite people", and the top winner's profile is worth a read. I was giggling the entire time.

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§ ita § - Jul 05, 2006 8:08:47 am PDT #5454 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Being paid for consistently is not something that comes easily to me.

Nor should it.

No, I'd like it to. I have issues that get in my way, and they shouldn't.


Glamcookie - Jul 05, 2006 8:19:04 am PDT #5455 of 10002
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Tacky, tacky: Swank blames split on Lowe's substance abuse


Nutty - Jul 05, 2006 8:29:07 am PDT #5456 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Dirty laundry: it's not just for the laundry room! Lame.

No, I'd like it to.

You're comfortable with the power dynamics I was describing? Or, would like to be comfortable with them? While I've certainly eaten on someone else's credit card -- many times --, I hate the easy inference that I can't pay my own way.


§ ita § - Jul 05, 2006 8:32:18 am PDT #5457 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You're comfortable with the power dynamics I was describing?

As far as I know, I haven't been part of that dynamic, so I see no reason for it to inhibit my acceptance that sometimes (and so far always) it's being done with non-derogatory intentions.