This is not funny. This... this is a morality tale about the evils of sake.

Simon ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hayden - Jun 01, 2006 12:58:06 pm PDT #48 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

A Salon article on dominionists from a few weeks back ended with:

Speaking to outsiders, most Christian nationalists say they're simply responding to anti-Christian persecution. They say that secularism is itself a religion, one unfairly imposed on them. They say they're the victims in the culture wars. But Christian nationalist ideologues don't want equality, they want dominance. In his book "The Changing of the Guard: Biblical Principles for Political Action," George Grant, former executive director of D. James Kennedy's Coral Ridge Ministries, wrote:

"Christians have an obligation, a mandate, a commission, a holy responsibility to reclaim the land for Jesus Christ -- to have dominion in civil structures, just as in every other aspect of life and godliness.

But it is dominion we are after. Not just a voice.

It is dominion we are after. Not just influence.

It is dominion we are after. Not just equal time.

It is dominion we are after.

World conquest. That's what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish. We must win the world with the power of the Gospel. And we must never settle for anything less...

Thus, Christian politics has as its primary intent the conquest of the land -- of men, families, institutions, bureaucracies, courts, and governments for the Kingdom of Christ."


Topic!Cindy - Jun 01, 2006 1:00:13 pm PDT #49 of 10002
What is even happening?

Uh, Marie? Sweetpea? Maybe if you spent as much with your kids as you do those godawful, uglyass dolls, you'd actually *know* what they were posting on the internet. Also? The day you tell me what I can and can't post to or look at on the internet, is the day that I'm a little bit chilly and little bit more in hell.

Her ACTUAL statement seems much more benign than the way that blog wrote it up.

In her statement, shocked Marie, a devout Mormon, says, "I am saddened by some of the choices that two of our children have made. "The insidious potential for harm from adolescent Internet sites like MySpace.com only exacerbates these kinds of problems. "If my being a celebrity figure is good for anything, let it be as a voice of warning to other parents that no matter how protective we think we may have been with our children in the past, we need to become more knowledgeable and even more vigilant now in order to protect them."

I'm a little wary of that blog, since at the end of the entry, the writer chastises Marie for revealing her daughters' internet escapades, yet in the very entry itself (which the writer must have copied and pasted) it is stated that the Enquirer dug up the dope about the kids, and confronted Marie, which is why she gave a statement.

I'm wondering if there really is a crusade, or if the crusade consists of the statement. I'd google, but I'm too tired.


Sparky1 - Jun 01, 2006 1:03:10 pm PDT #50 of 10002
Librarian Warlord

Sparky, I hear you. I really do. On almost any other free speech issue, I'd agree. But I have to draw a line with K-12 kids being taught a version of the "truth" that is potentially harmful to them without allowing for or teaching dissenting viewpoints.

Again, all I said was that a teacher shouldn't be fired solely for expressing or holding a belief. And I even believe this to be true at a K-12 level. When the element of excluding all other beliefs/expressions from the classroom is added, or not teaching the curriculum, or abusing students -- then it's a different discussion.


Pix - Jun 01, 2006 1:05:39 pm PDT #51 of 10002
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Ah, gotcha! I misunderstood. Yes, I agree a teacher should not be fired solely for expressing a belief, and I do think it happens more frequently than it should.


Trudy Booth - Jun 01, 2006 1:06:18 pm PDT #52 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

t gooses sparky

just 'cause


Sparky1 - Jun 01, 2006 1:10:28 pm PDT #53 of 10002
Librarian Warlord

::squeals as if offended, but the grinning gives me away::


Aims - Jun 01, 2006 1:12:40 pm PDT #54 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

SO. SAD.

I was just typing an address onto a purchase order. The company's street is "Chandler".

I typed "Chanandler".


Sparky1 - Jun 01, 2006 1:13:39 pm PDT #55 of 10002
Librarian Warlord

I typed "Chanandler".

Another victim of TV brain-washing.


ChiKat - Jun 01, 2006 1:13:44 pm PDT #56 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Bong!


sarameg - Jun 01, 2006 1:24:17 pm PDT #57 of 10002

I AM SO FUCKING PISSED.

No one has even entered my apartment.

I think I'm going to have to request someone accompany me back to my apartment tomorrow morning so I can FUCKING SUPERVISE THEM.

You know, they may have a valid reason. But you FUCKING DON'T TELL ME "TODAY" TWO DAYS IN A ROW and then don't deliver. Don't lie to me. That's the one thing I will not accept. Especially after knowing there was a problem for more than a week.

They are going to learn. And I'm calling corporate.