You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 45: Smooth as Billy Dee Williams.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Volans - Jun 27, 2006 10:31:45 am PDT #4284 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Yeah, Smart Cars are a lot cheaper here than they would be in the US. But they have a great maintenance record, and the savings in gas could really drop the price of ownership.

I think the savings in headaches are probably not as great in most US cities, especially west of the Mississippi, but here they are a dream for getting through tight streets and finding parking. And they actually fit in Athens Fantasy Car parking spaces, which my Passat doesn't.

My landlord has a ForTwo, and does not use it for long trips, but then he's got a very cush Mercedes with basically a home theater in it for that.


Sparky1 - Jun 27, 2006 10:45:56 am PDT #4285 of 10002
Librarian Warlord

There's a place in Santa Rosa, CA selling Smart Cars now. The price tag on them was about 20K, and they were getting about 40 mpg after all the futzing with American/California emissions standards (I think I remember that they get about 60 mpg in Europe).

eta: The article -- [link]


beth b - Jun 27, 2006 10:49:19 am PDT #4286 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I just turned on Sara's secrets on the food channel. a savory clafouti is being made.


brenda m - Jun 27, 2006 10:54:22 am PDT #4287 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Oh brenda, if you want you can borrow my copy of Kingdom Coming....

Oh, yay. Thanks!


Alibelle - Jun 27, 2006 10:58:27 am PDT #4288 of 10002
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Happy Birthday, J.Z.!

Thanks, Emily! No, I haven't really looked at DIY stuff, since it's all gonna have to wait, no matter what, unless it can be fixed for under $20. Plus, it's a power mirror. So mostly I'm just scared about what anyone's gonna say. And I still need to fix the slashes in my roof. So irritating.

Joss is so cool.

Smart cars are hysterical. I am bigger than them.


Burrell - Jun 27, 2006 11:01:37 am PDT #4289 of 10002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Happy Birthday, JZ!


Kalshane - Jun 27, 2006 11:17:19 am PDT #4290 of 10002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Sometimes I'd think it'd be fun to have an old (mid-'60s or older) VW Beetle to use to run around town....

You should totally get a bright yellow one and paint an Autobot symbol on the hood.

That or get a blue one, which pretty much speaks for itself.


erikaj - Jun 27, 2006 11:20:07 am PDT #4291 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

my mom's was forest-green.


§ ita § - Jun 27, 2006 11:20:57 am PDT #4292 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

VW seems to have a set of colours that they only sell in their new Beetle convertibles. I saw one in this delicious dark red--made me want to lick the car.


Dana - Jun 27, 2006 11:22:06 am PDT #4293 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Speaking of colors, I now have a bright purple cast after a visit to the orthopedist. Still don't need surgery, though, so yay. Am oddly reassured for someone who's going to be in a cast for six weeks.