Sweetie, we're crooks. If everything were right, we'd be in jail.

Wash ,'Serenity'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kevin - Jan 09, 2008 1:58:34 pm PST #9470 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

If the WGA has gone this far, the only way they can get any benefit is to really go for it. Which includes trying to shove anybody and everybody they can on to the boat. IMHO.


Wolfram - Jan 09, 2008 3:30:20 pm PST #9471 of 10001
Visilurking

the only way they can get any benefit is to really go for it.

No, it isn't. They'd gain a lot more ground, and respect, if they'd pick their battles. Regardless, the strike is taking its economic toll on the networks as it's meant to do. Petty statements about Leno and the re-purposed Golden Globes do not help the cause.


Typo Boy - Jan 09, 2008 3:31:55 pm PST #9472 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Also whatever the WGA is doing wrong, it is not the WGA who is refusing to strike a deal.


Tamara - Jan 09, 2008 3:39:32 pm PST #9473 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

What Typo Boy said.


Invisible Green - Jan 09, 2008 4:11:10 pm PST #9474 of 10001

He may not work as a writer because of his WGA membership...

What would happen if he did write? Would he get kicked out of the WGA?


tiggy - Jan 09, 2008 5:29:49 pm PST #9475 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

this was bad enough, but this is fucking ridiculous and that guy needs to be prosecuted.


Kristen - Jan 09, 2008 6:05:28 pm PST #9476 of 10001

Allyson - Jan 09, 2008 7:43:15 pm PST #9477 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

No, it isn't. They'd gain a lot more ground, and respect, if they'd pick their battles.

This is where I am. Every time I head over to Mazin's blog there's another case of the Guild leadership overstepping, or not sticking to its own rules, and I want to keep kicking them. 2.5 on new media. Stick to that. Negotiate with that. Stop meddling in every other sort of writing.

I keep waiting for them to posthumously unionize egyptian hieroglyphic writers and demand back residuals from dead pharoahs.

Dude. I WANT YOU TO GET YOUR 2.5%. BUT YOU MUST CHILL. I HAVE HIDDEN YOUR KEYS.


victor infante - Jan 10, 2008 3:38:13 am PST #9478 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

This was a lot easier when unions would just rough people up to get their way.


Kevin - Jan 10, 2008 4:13:31 am PST #9479 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I can see why they are going after reality though, Allyson - the next time this happens, it would put them in a much better place as far as I see it.

Part of the problem here is the WGA voted to go on strike, and the studios went 'So fucking what? We'll put reality on. And we make loads of money from multiple things, so we can wait it out longer too. Roughly until the DGA appears, actually'. I have no problems with studios. What I do have a problem with is the corporate setup basically means a strike under the current situation is ultimately ineffective for the writers.

Of course, the AMPTP members aren't going to let reality go on the table for the above reason without a fight. And that's a fight which is going to cost everybody dear, it appears