I can handle the Oz Full Monty. I mean, not 'handle' handle.

Xander ,'Help'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


CaBil - Nov 07, 2007 4:30:37 am PST #7597 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Re: Kristen

Writers are often overlooked. Back in the 90s comic boom, many articles/people who started collecting didn't even think comics had writers, or simply were the ones who filled out the word balloons.

Then again, some people also thought all the art was done by computers, with the artists just clicking some buttons. Back in the early 90s...


CaBil - Nov 07, 2007 4:57:50 am PST #7598 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

In seriousness, since I will have some time on my hands, I and my friends are thinking of ways to communicate what it is we ARE fighting for and why it's of the good and right.

Some random ideas...

Talk about middle class values. No one ever really realizes that is what any union is ultimately about. The right for people in the union to earn a living wage.

"What if you had to live on one paycheck a year?"

For every writer, there is X (include the numbers of over and under line employees) number of people making tv and films from a writer's work.
Shouldn't a writer be paid at least as well as everyone else?

Every time a publisher sells a book, the writer gets rewarded.
Why shouldn't every time Hollywood company makes money from the writer's work, the writer also gets rewarded?

What the Hollywood companies made last year. $XX (probably billions)
What the Hollywood writers want. 4 more cents

When a writer's work is on the TV, he get paid.
When a writer's work is on the computer, he gets nothing.
Is that fair?

Work on a show about make believe people, get health insurance.
Work on a show about real people, get nothing.

Why should Hollywood companies make its writers rely on government assistance? (this one needs to be tweaked, but the idea behind it is valid. When you are unemployed, you do qualify for government assistance, and why should the gov. (and your tax dollars) go to help someone when the companies are making so much money?)


Allyson - Nov 07, 2007 5:27:15 am PST #7599 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Every time a publisher sells a book, the writer gets rewarded.
Why shouldn't every time Hollywood company makes money from the writer's work, the writer also gets rewarded?

Every time a bell rings, an angel gets his wings!

Sorry. Couldn't resist.


CaBil - Nov 07, 2007 5:39:59 am PST #7600 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Heh, but Allyson, that would put together angels and Hollywood companies together. There are limits to what even the best writer can make seem believable...


Kevin - Nov 07, 2007 8:02:21 am PST #7601 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Hand to god, I always thought it was an urban myth that people believed the actors made it all up themselves.

You wouldn't believe the amount of times I've heard people saying actors are funny because they've been in funny films. As in, 'yeah, let's go and see that! They've a funny guy!'.


Jon B. - Nov 07, 2007 8:05:21 am PST #7602 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

As in, 'yeah, let's go and see that! They've a funny guy!'.

In all fairness to those people (and the actors), delivery is pretty important too.


Kevin - Nov 07, 2007 8:08:26 am PST #7603 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I completely agree, Jon B. Acting is difficult, as it's very very easy to suck at it. Like writing. That's why I'm always supportive of writers.


Jon B. - Nov 07, 2007 9:17:33 am PST #7604 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

That's why I'm always supportive of writers.

As am I. But you were making fun of audience members who credit actors. I pointed out that those audience members aren't entirely wrong. That's all. No biggie.


Kevin - Nov 07, 2007 9:19:34 am PST #7605 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Well, more specially I'm making fun of audience members who think actors are writers, when not all are. Although I wasn't clear about that.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 07, 2007 9:48:28 am PST #7606 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Actor's aren't writers - they're cattle.

t /Alfred Hitchcock