Buffy: He ran away, right? Giles: Sort of, more. turned and swept out majestically, I suppose. Said I didn't concern him. Buffy: So a mythic triumph over a completely indifferent foe? Giles: Well, I'm not dead or unconscious, so I say bravo for me.

'Same Time, Same Place'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kristen - Nov 06, 2007 1:02:50 pm PST #7570 of 10001

On the way back to my car today, I had my first encounter with someone who didn't know what a writer did. "So you guys write the stuff that the actors say?" Hand to god, I always thought it was an urban myth that people believed the actors made it all up themselves.

The person, however, was very nice, asked me a few questions about why we were striking and wished me luck.


libkitty - Nov 06, 2007 1:08:54 pm PST #7571 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

maybe you need a heavier sign.

Perhaps. That might have had the side benefit of not blowing apart from the sticks in the wind.


Polter-Cow - Nov 06, 2007 1:09:20 pm PST #7572 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Wow. That's...frightening, Kristen. How could someone not know about...writers?


tommyrot - Nov 06, 2007 1:12:08 pm PST #7573 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Hell, I used to think there were tiny people inside the radio who would sing and talk. But then again, I was three.


Kristen - Nov 06, 2007 1:17:08 pm PST #7574 of 10001

If I stop and think about it, it makes sense that Average Person never considers what goes into making the TV shows they watch. I mean, hey, when I eat a piece of chicken, I'm not thinking about the dude who slaughtered it or plucked its feathers or whatever.


Polter-Cow - Nov 06, 2007 1:24:38 pm PST #7575 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

True, but surely people have heard terms like "scripts" and the like? And maybe have glanced at a "written by" credit before? In both television and movies? Or perhaps seen an awards show that had a category for "Best Writing" or "Best Screenplay"? It seems like a fairly hard-to-miss idea. Did the person think the actors wrote all their own lines? Or made it up on the spot?


Kristen - Nov 06, 2007 1:31:13 pm PST #7576 of 10001

I didn't ask. He was very nice and genuinely curious about the strike so, instead, I told him about the internet and then hobbled my way back to my car.


Polter-Cow - Nov 06, 2007 1:36:29 pm PST #7577 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

How many pounds did you lose today?


Gris - Nov 06, 2007 4:36:05 pm PST #7578 of 10001
Hey. New board.

Teacher weigh-in: I like to think that the comparison to teachers is used to get at the underpaid thing, and I do think that most people would probably agree with the polling statement "Teachers are underpaid" but I also understand the dislike of the phrasing. Frankly, I almost didn't become a teacher because of pressure I felt from society (not my parents, thankfully) to "do better." Teaching is a shamefully low-status profession, even here in NYC, where we're actually paid pretty decently, compared to nationwide averages. Yet my friends in finance, male and female, who are making about the same as me (right now - in three years they'll make a lot more, sadly) and working hours just as long with much less vacation, and HATE their jobs, still say "Really?" when they find out I'm a teacher. They very quickly add "That's awesome!" but the moment is there.

So when I read things comparing salaries to grade-school teaching, I see the derogatory implications. Honestly, it scans no different than a comparison to construction workers or fast-food cashiers would; it's by comparing it to a low-status position that the comparison is effective. Then again, I don't see anyway to make a comparison there that wouldn't be offensive or derogatory to some profession. My first thought was "less than most airport luggage attendants" but who am I to imply THEIR profession is inferior?

It really annoys me how society seems to consistently undervalue teachers, nurses, and secretaries, especially, and I can't help thinking it comes from the fact that 50 years ago, those were "female" jobs. Still are, to a large extent. And they don't get the same cachet as businessmen, computer programmers, actors, or writers, in my opinion, because of that continued prejudice.


sarameg - Nov 06, 2007 5:10:59 pm PST #7579 of 10001

I make more than my mom (by just a bit, we switch back and forth yearly-uh, she and Kat are now doing similar jobs now, and she had a regular assigned class until about 3 years ago) and she does a fuckload more work than I do. It's part of my imposter syndrome.

Oh, the Christian Science Monitor's cartoon today was a bunch of people striking with blank signs. I laughed ruefully.