Wash: I didn't think you were one for rituals and such. Mal: I'm not, but it'll keep the others busy for a while. No reason to concern them with what's to be done.

'Bushwhacked'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Polter-Cow - Nov 06, 2007 1:36:29 pm PST #7577 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

How many pounds did you lose today?


Gris - Nov 06, 2007 4:36:05 pm PST #7578 of 10001
Hey. New board.

Teacher weigh-in: I like to think that the comparison to teachers is used to get at the underpaid thing, and I do think that most people would probably agree with the polling statement "Teachers are underpaid" but I also understand the dislike of the phrasing. Frankly, I almost didn't become a teacher because of pressure I felt from society (not my parents, thankfully) to "do better." Teaching is a shamefully low-status profession, even here in NYC, where we're actually paid pretty decently, compared to nationwide averages. Yet my friends in finance, male and female, who are making about the same as me (right now - in three years they'll make a lot more, sadly) and working hours just as long with much less vacation, and HATE their jobs, still say "Really?" when they find out I'm a teacher. They very quickly add "That's awesome!" but the moment is there.

So when I read things comparing salaries to grade-school teaching, I see the derogatory implications. Honestly, it scans no different than a comparison to construction workers or fast-food cashiers would; it's by comparing it to a low-status position that the comparison is effective. Then again, I don't see anyway to make a comparison there that wouldn't be offensive or derogatory to some profession. My first thought was "less than most airport luggage attendants" but who am I to imply THEIR profession is inferior?

It really annoys me how society seems to consistently undervalue teachers, nurses, and secretaries, especially, and I can't help thinking it comes from the fact that 50 years ago, those were "female" jobs. Still are, to a large extent. And they don't get the same cachet as businessmen, computer programmers, actors, or writers, in my opinion, because of that continued prejudice.


sarameg - Nov 06, 2007 5:10:59 pm PST #7579 of 10001

I make more than my mom (by just a bit, we switch back and forth yearly-uh, she and Kat are now doing similar jobs now, and she had a regular assigned class until about 3 years ago) and she does a fuckload more work than I do. It's part of my imposter syndrome.

Oh, the Christian Science Monitor's cartoon today was a bunch of people striking with blank signs. I laughed ruefully.


Allyson - Nov 06, 2007 5:23:26 pm PST #7580 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm trying to get hold of Glark to make Glark Strikewear. I totally think TWoP needs to jump on the bandwagon. I mean, not pitying the writers is their gig, and they have no writing to not pity.


§ ita § - Nov 06, 2007 5:33:43 pm PST #7581 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

it's by comparing it to a low-status position that the comparison is effective

I disagree. The statement "they get as much money as a profession we all agree is paid little" is a valid one and implies nothing negative about the status of the second profession in question. In fact, by aligning with a profession that's seen to be critical and poorly paid, you can bask in a bit of the glow.

Comparing you to a fry cook is a different metaphor. Simile. Whatever. Expression.

As Kat notes, though, we don't have the context. I just feel that your statement isn't an exclusive interpretation of the text we've seen.


Strega - Nov 06, 2007 6:12:08 pm PST #7582 of 10001

Jump on the bandwagon how?


Pix - Nov 06, 2007 6:20:30 pm PST #7583 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Oh, I've been meaning to ask--does someone at TWOP have a red car with the license plate "TWOPWRS"? Because I couldn't think of another meaning for the acronym, and I'm wondering if WRS is "writers" or "wars" or something else altogether.

ETA: It takes a very long time to merge onto the 405 from Sunset. Waaaaay too much time to obsess about license plates and such on that ramp.


Strega - Nov 06, 2007 6:24:37 pm PST #7584 of 10001

Hm, I don't know... where are you at?

I'd tend to read it as "two powers," although that's equally mysterious. Unless they're a superhero.


Pix - Nov 06, 2007 6:26:56 pm PST #7585 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I'd tend to read it as "two powers," although that's equally mysterious.
I? Am a moron.

Clearly I spend way too much time on the Internets.

where are you at?
Merging onto the 405N off Sunset on the Westside. But I think you're right--probably not TWOP. Either way, verra mysterious indeed.


Allyson - Nov 06, 2007 6:45:22 pm PST #7586 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

The SWAG Bandwagon! I see lots of LJ icons, but I feel that I can't really support the writers without an awesome tshirt and stickers.