Fay! My first thought was Ibsen too!
Possibly because I've never heard of the other one.
Wait. People? She eats people? 'To Serve Man.' It's 'To Serve Man' all over again.
Gunn ,'Power Play'
The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
sumi - Nov 01, 2007 9:03:46 am PDT #7267 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
hippocampus - Nov 01, 2007 9:09:41 am PDT #7268 of 10001
not your mom's socks.
Without going full pollyanna, I'm excited about another show. The fact that it has caught our attention this much already should say something. The fact that there are some obvious stereotypes and mistreatments that could be written beyond or through should say something. The fact that I am more worried about what happens if concept control passes from Joss & Tim to, say, the studio, should say something.
Not to mention the fact that we get to play with Gibson and Ibsen in the same sentence... [Gi]bsn.
Kristen - Nov 01, 2007 9:11:25 am PDT #7269 of 10001
My first thought was Ibsen too!
My first thought was shoes. But that's just how I roll.
lisah - Nov 01, 2007 9:16:45 am PDT #7270 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate
My first thought was shoes.
hah! It wasn't mine but now that you bring it up I'm thinking about the Project Runway Season 1 Shoe Controversy!
P.M. Marc - Nov 01, 2007 9:17:31 am PDT #7271 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I don't know anything about feminism, other than I'm a feminist woman, but I don't think Joss Whedon belongs very high on anyone's list of chauvinist pigs. I mean, we should be so lucky to live in a world full of men that share Joss' issues with womankind.
I don't think he's chauvinist pig. I do think, however, that he's got his own blind spots, as does Tim, as do I, as does pretty much everyone.
Joss in particular occasionally seems enamoured of tropes that I find disturbing, see also: River and Fred.
Kristen - Nov 01, 2007 9:18:40 am PDT #7272 of 10001
It wasn't mine but now that you bring it up I'm thinking about the Project Runway Season 1 Shoe Controversy!
Thank you, Kara Saun.
Allyson - Nov 01, 2007 9:21:57 am PDT #7273 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Plei is me.
I am reminded of the episode where it suddenly occurs to Buffy that the Watcher's Council needs her a lot more than she needs them, and can in fact call the shots and use them as advisors as needed.
I loved that awakening. One of my favorite eps. If this is that, it's an interesting premise, and I'd like to see how he sustains it.
Kevin - Nov 01, 2007 9:25:19 am PDT #7274 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Yeah. My only real fear is the whole Alias effect, where you can go so far, and then get lost in the show's mythology. Mind you, for a show where the main concept involves 'reset', you can't do that very much I'd imagine.
Mind you, after the whole Drive thing where people were worrying about it getting boring after two seasons..
Theodosia - Nov 01, 2007 9:53:09 am PDT #7275 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
:: waves the Ibsen flag ::
Tamara - Nov 01, 2007 10:01:52 am PDT #7276 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
I'm with jengod on this one and am a bit scared and confused by the other reactions. I am not the most educated person in the world so maybe I just don't get where you all are coming from.
I'm happy about the show and will reserve all judgment or gnashing of teeth until I actually know something (and will probably still reserve all judgment until after seeing a handful of episodes).