Do you know what else has blood in it? Blood.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Strega - Nov 01, 2007 6:16:07 am PDT #7225 of 10001

I have qualms, but not about that. There are male and female dolls, so I don't see how the premise inherently objectifies women. It seems like it's more about being an actor than being a woman.


Kevin - Nov 01, 2007 6:17:46 am PDT #7226 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

It certainly sounds human conditiony. Joss has posted on Whedonesque clarifying Miracle Man is still up. Which we know.

Two Tim's for the price of one in 2008. And he's free to me. Oh world, I love yee.


Invisible Green - Nov 01, 2007 6:24:54 am PDT #7227 of 10001

Congrats to Joss, Tim, and Eliza! This is unexpected, but awesome.


DavidS - Nov 01, 2007 6:25:49 am PDT #7228 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

When they run a blurb in Maxim about this show, the readers there aren't going to be thinking, "Hmmm, that's really an incisive metaphor about how young actresses are treated in Hollywood."

Also: the name of the show screams exploitation. The Big Dollhouse is an exemplar of the women-in-prison movie and in the movie Walk on the Wild Side the Dollhouse is the whorehouse. There may be boy dolls but that isn't the implication of the title. Doll Squad wasn't about GI Joe.

Also: after the Buffybot, and whasshername, Katrina? Warren's ex that the Trio mind controlled, and Mr. Universe's sexbot I'm getting kind of suspicious about this corner of Joss' psyche.

I trust that Joss and Tim are fantastic writers and directors, and that Eliza is a very talented and charismatic actress. But I think people are going to gag on the premise. You're going to see a real backlash from people like Stephanie Zacharek.


§ ita § - Nov 01, 2007 6:27:46 am PDT #7229 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hec do you have qualms about the premise, or qualms about how other people will react to the premise? I had thought the former, but your next post reads more like the latter.


Wolfram - Nov 01, 2007 6:29:54 am PDT #7230 of 10001
Visilurking

Without knowing anything else, the title Buffy the Vampire Slayer sounds like a sexploitation B horror movie too.

Book and cover.


Kevin - Nov 01, 2007 6:37:55 am PDT #7231 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I'm pretty sure the title kept Buffy out the mainstream, though, which I'm sure FOX want. Yep, I managed to get to 4pm before getting negative.


lisah - Nov 01, 2007 6:39:15 am PDT #7232 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

sounds a lot like Molly's backstory in Neuromancer?

Yes. thank you I've been trying to think of that all morning but clearly my brain got damaged last night (I just read that for the first time a couple of months ago).

Regardless of how the premise will be received I'm excited to see what Joss & co. will do to twist it and defy people's expectations.


Topic!Cindy - Nov 01, 2007 6:40:01 am PDT #7233 of 10001
What is even happening?

So I get Miracle Man and a Joss/Tim/Eliza project. This isn't b.org; it's heaven.

I love the premise, becaues it sounds like the story is about Eliza's character's waking up to the ways in which she's exploited. Go get 'em, Tim and Joss. I'll be sitting here in the corner weeping with joy.


Kevin - Nov 01, 2007 6:42:09 am PDT #7234 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

*Sits with Topic!Cindy*