I can't stand Gilmore Girls because of the speech pattern.
That's funny, because I can't either, and yet I loved the speech patterns on Firefly and Buffy.
Right, what's a little sweater sniffing between sworn enemies?
Riley ,'Sleeper'
The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Zenkitty - Feb 21, 2007 10:38:27 am PST #4268 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Allyson - Feb 21, 2007 10:39:03 am PST #4269 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
The further I get away from Firefly, the less I like it. OTOH, I really miss Wonderfalls.
§ ita § - Feb 21, 2007 10:42:06 am PST #4270 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I find Firefly easier to come back to, becuase I didn't like any of the rumours I heard about the next season of Wonderfalls.
DavidS - Feb 21, 2007 10:42:44 am PST #4271 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
The further I get away from Firefly, the less I like it. OTOH, I really miss Wonderfalls.
Interesting. I probably rewatch Firefly and Wonderfalls more often than any of the other shows.
Kevin - Feb 21, 2007 10:48:15 am PST #4272 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
I think the only thing I've liked less with distance was Angel season 4, and about half of 3. Angel season 2 still owns all for me.
Allyson - Feb 21, 2007 10:57:36 am PST #4273 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I find Firefly easier to come back to, becuase I didn't like any of the rumours I heard about the next season of Wonderfalls.
Heh. It doesn't bother me because I am certain someone would have smacked the bad crack out of Fuller's head. Of course, with Firefly, I know all that's next is Serenity and YOU CANT STOP THE SIGNAL!
And then I laugh until I cry, but not in the way I think Whedon intended.
Sorry. Didn't mean to get all bashy, but dear loward. Everytime I catch it on cable, and there's the seriousness, and the reavers, and the big secret is that everyone died of apathy, and then YOU CANT STOP THE SIGNAL! I just. It's. OMG so funny.
I can't really put my finger on why Firefly got stale/sour to me over time. There's a few fantastically written episodes/scenes of television in there. I just don't think they were enough to carry the concept for me in the long term, maybe?
Kevin - Feb 21, 2007 11:00:33 am PST #4274 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Am I correct in saying you weren't sold on the concept originally by the pilot, Allyson?
I can understand where that can lead to confusion, as I do think it's a well written series in most places, but if the concept doesn't sit, it does kinda all fall down for a viewer. Which is why the series was never going to work for a mass audience.
amych - Feb 21, 2007 11:02:19 am PST #4275 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
That makes a lot of sense to me, Allyson -- for me, the concept never could carry the movie (and it may be a good thing I've never run across it on cable, because I barely made it through the one time), but the series still remains this chunk of teevee that I really fiercely love no matter how often I rewatch. Mileage, vary, etc, but you aren't sounding bashy to me.
Kevin - Feb 21, 2007 11:06:22 am PST #4276 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Personally, I thought the concept of Serenity was enough to carry the movie -- but structurally, I thought it had issues. Mr Universe didn't work, the 'secret' is too late in the proceedings yada. Not to say I could do any better, because my attempt at a Firefly movie screenplay would mostly involve Mal saying "Buh" to Jayne, and Jayne saying "Guh" to Mal.
Vortex - Feb 21, 2007 11:08:39 am PST #4277 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
The exact words, no. But the grammar and rhythms were very consistent throughout the series. My sister found it as offputting as the language in Firefly.
I can see that. HOwever, I thought that the grammar and rhythms were consistent with the "real" speech patterns of the location and time. Some teenagers spoke like that.