That makes a lot of sense to me, Allyson -- for me, the concept never could carry the movie (and it may be a good thing I've never run across it on cable, because I barely made it through the one time), but the series still remains this chunk of teevee that I really fiercely love no matter how often I rewatch. Mileage, vary, etc, but you aren't sounding bashy to me.

Personally, I thought the concept of Serenity was enough to carry the movie -- but structurally, I thought it had issues. Mr Universe didn't work, the 'secret' is too late in the proceedings yada. Not to say I could do any better, because my attempt at a Firefly movie screenplay would mostly involve Mal saying "Buh" to Jayne, and Jayne saying "Guh" to Mal.

The exact words, no. But the grammar and rhythms were very consistent throughout the series. My sister found it as offputting as the language in Firefly.

I can see that. HOwever, I thought that the grammar and rhythms were consistent with the "real" speech patterns of the location and time. Some teenagers spoke like that.

I can't really put my finger on why Firefly got stale/sour to me over time.

Am I confusing you with Kristen as to who couldn't stand the show from the get-go? I thought you were in the hate the show but heartily support the creators camp?

I grew up on westerns and many relatives from Texas. "Reckon" was in common usage among my extended family.

Heh. I saw a reference in a review today to "French-Canadian ingenue Dhavernas" and it took me aback, because I really know her only from WF, which, not so much with the ingenue. Or the F-C, for that matter.

It took me a bit to get past the western-talk in Firefly, but then I grew to love it. My own speech can be heavily influence by both that and Buffyspeak. Add in my own hodge-podge of accents and regionalisms, and it can get kind of scary in there.

Semi-relatedly, I said to my parents recently that something "gave me a wiggins" and my father was like, "What's a wiggins?" He's the one who turned me on to Buffy in the first place!!

Jesse, that's so funny.

ita, what were the rumors about season 2 of Wonderfalls? I'm curious, now. Oh, how I loved that show.

I came to really like the western language over the course of the show, never minded the Chinese (and liked it when Wash was spitting it out angrily) and loved Nathan as Mal.

The Chinese seemed out of place to me, not that it couldn't blend into English in the future, but there was a stunning lack of Asian-looking people on the series, and the use of Chinese language only served to highlight that fact.

what were the rumors about season 2 of Wonderfalls?

Sharon gets pregnant is what sticks most in my mind. Because her girlfriend had had sex. The details escape me.

Because her girlfriend had had sex with PoorBitch and then had sex with Sharon.

Yeah, it is pretty farfetched.