Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass.

Cordelia ,'Dirty Girls'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 01, 2007 6:34:41 am PST #3826 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

If I have the power to "put out bad energy" about a show and undermine its survival just by voicing worry about its prospects here, I propose the creation of an "OMG! WHAT WILL WE DO IF ABC CANCELS ACCORDING TO JIM?!?" thread.


Monique - Feb 01, 2007 6:37:50 am PST #3827 of 10001

I've seen it other places as well. I just finally wondered out loud because I knew you guys would accept the comment at face value, and I wouldn't get into a fight over free speech or whatnot over the Internet.

I'm rather optimistic about the chances for TV's hit Drive. Perhaps I'm being Sally Sunshine, but promos have aired four times, right? Three times during the top-ranked show for the past two or three years, and another time during the 2006 Emmy winner for best drama series. I think these are good signs.


Ailleann - Feb 01, 2007 6:51:33 am PST #3828 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Monique, I would agree that they're definitely putting more advertising dollars behind TV's hit Drive. And if they're breaking the mold, then they would need to NOT cancel it at all!

Also, I second the idea of a vibing thread to cancel some choice candidates. (AI, I'm definitely looking at you.)


EpicTangent - Feb 01, 2007 6:53:14 am PST #3829 of 10001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

If I have the power to "put out bad energy" about a show and undermine its survival just by voicing worry about its prospects here, I propose the creation of an "OMG! WHAT WILL WE DO IF ABC CANCELS ACCORDING TO JIM?!?" thread.

Seconded!


Frankenbuddha - Feb 01, 2007 6:59:09 am PST #3830 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'm rather optimistic about the chances for TV's hit Drive. Perhaps I'm being Sally Sunshine, but promos have aired four times, right? Three times during the top-ranked show for the past two or three years, and another time during the 2006 Emmy winner for best drama series. I think these are good signs.

I actually do to, this time around, because the signs are good. The time slot is one opposite Howie Mandel's game show and two CBS sitcoms (and much as I adore AH, even I was watching HIMYM I would be watching DRIVE instead when it comes on), so it doesn't really have competition in the drama stakes, and that, plus the early ads popping up during their big shows is a better sign for a Tim show than I've ever seen before (whereas before it looked like Cigarette Smoking Guy had it in for Tim the way he did for the Buffallo Bills).

Once the debut date and time slot for THE INSIDE were announced, I had a bad feeling that what was going to happen is exactly what ended up happening, despite some strong words of support from the network. I'm not getting that negative vibe this time around from FOX's actions.


Cashmere - Feb 01, 2007 7:06:52 am PST #3831 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I still own a television and I still watch Fox. I'm going to tune in to TV's hit series, Drive because it looks good to me.

I thought I'd be jaded and skeptical but I just can't be.

Hope springs eternal.


libkitty - Feb 01, 2007 9:35:02 am PST #3832 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Saw my first promo last night. At the beginning I was kind of meh, but I was really intrigued by about half way through, even more so when I started seeing NF. I didn't like the pregnant character at first (what's her name?), but I loved her line when she was being booked.

In short, I think I would have been intrigued enough to give it a shot even without the Tim/Kristen/Nathan connection. With it, the show would get a shot from me if the promo showed just asphalt, although I would have serious concerns!

I couldn't remember if I needed to use spoiler font, so thought I would play it safe.


Allyson - Feb 01, 2007 10:16:10 am PST #3833 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I've been thinking about this for awhile. I have weird issues due to two people I love very much making this show, and then I get fiercely protective when anyone has anything remotely negative to say.

It's foolish, as both Tim and Kristen can certainly defend their work, and likely aren't broken by comments/criticism, and maybe welcome it.

I get that, it's reasonable.

I am not reasonable, and thus sit on my hands as much as possible so as not to go apoplectic on someone who says, "That promo did nothing for me" or, "The only reason I'd watch is because of Nathan, Tim, Kristen, the guy holding the boom...".

It feels like, if someone were to pop up in Lit and say, "I couldn't get past the first essay in Vampire People, it was boring, do the rest get better?"

I'm a big girl and can get that and welcome the criticism, but I imagine a handful Buffistae might get uppity about it, because they love me and wouldn't want to see my feelings hurt, and it's natural to get defensive about people you love.

So it's not like I'm saying you can't come in and say, "The episode didn't grab me because..."

A) I'm not thread boss B) It's a legit discussion on topic

But you know, I reserve the right to go mental on anyone who says that Tim or Kristen are talentless hacks who smell of poo. That's Stompy-worthy, I think.

Does this make sense? Just putting it out there. Again. I'm unsure if Monique gets that same feeling of defensiveness, but it's where I went with Juliebird's post.

My initial kneejerk reaction was to metaphorically punch her in the nose, which is wrong and stupid and I'm sorry that my head goes to the irrational mamabear place, first.

Okay, so, um, TV's hit Drive. Mondays at 8.


Allyson - Feb 01, 2007 10:18:01 am PST #3834 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I remember being much more eloquent, once.


Daisy Jane - Feb 01, 2007 10:21:16 am PST #3835 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

It's difficult when your friends are involved. You did fine with Firefly criticism (probably Inside too, I don't remember though). You'll do fine with this too. Buffistas aren't prone to anything as simple as X is a hack anyway, so I think most commentary will be constructive.

I think all the buildup excitement, and waiting, and then not one but two, two of your favorite people, that can make anyone flip out like a mammal.

ETA: I should also say, while we don't love them in the same way we certainly respect and love them as artists and Buffistas, and will treat them in that way.