Two by two, hands of blue. Two by two, hands of blue.

River ,'Ariel'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Daisy Jane - Feb 01, 2007 10:21:16 am PST #3835 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

It's difficult when your friends are involved. You did fine with Firefly criticism (probably Inside too, I don't remember though). You'll do fine with this too. Buffistas aren't prone to anything as simple as X is a hack anyway, so I think most commentary will be constructive.

I think all the buildup excitement, and waiting, and then not one but two, two of your favorite people, that can make anyone flip out like a mammal.

ETA: I should also say, while we don't love them in the same way we certainly respect and love them as artists and Buffistas, and will treat them in that way.


Allyson - Feb 01, 2007 10:27:06 am PST #3836 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I know. I expect a storm of newbies.


DavidS - Feb 01, 2007 10:29:13 am PST #3837 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But you know, I reserve the right to go mental on anyone who says that Tim or Kristen are talentless hacks who smell of poo. That's Stompy-worthy, I think.

I don't think that's stomp-worthy. Certainly Tim has shown amazing resiliance (and good humor) in the face of some tough criticism, and I expect Kristen can hold her own in a poo-flinging contest (should she deign to lower herself).

The question of what's a personal attack and what's a cultural critique gets blurred when the creators are about, certainly. But I expect people will be polite as they usually are around here.

And I expect you might have to grit your teeth and rebut wrong-headed people forcefully (and civilly?). Or go mental as your muse dictates.

I don't think Tim or Kristen would lack for defenders here. Though there are very few people anywhere who can match the blister power of a full-on Allysonian rant.


Tamara - Feb 01, 2007 10:30:07 am PST #3838 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Allyson, I don't know how anyone could expect your reaction to be any different than mama bear.

I wasn't surprised at all to your reaction to Juliebird's post. However, since I know Juliebird, I am pretty sure that her comment wasn't coming from a "oh, that sucks" place as much as a "objectively, that didn't grab me as much as I would have liked and maybe I am not the ads demo" kinda place.

Not that I want to put words in Juliebird's mouth, but I guess I just did. Her words may differ.


Sue - Feb 01, 2007 10:31:18 am PST #3839 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I totally understand where you're coming from Allyson, but I think Tim himself has said that he doesn't want people to not criticize a show just because he is here. ETA: Or, what Dana said.

I just want to know if I'll be about to see TV's hit show Drive in Canadia.


Dana - Feb 01, 2007 10:31:31 am PST #3840 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I don't think that's stomp-worthy.

stomp-worthy or Stompy-worthy? I think any personal attacks would be Stompy-worthy to the extent that any attack on a poster here would be.


Cass - Feb 01, 2007 10:32:16 am PST #3841 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I'll admit, I don't think I said anything bad about Tim, Kristen or TV's hit Drive. But right after I hit post on the promo snark? Realized that I should probably expect to get punched in the metaphorical nose by a few people.

I did say something passive aggressive and shitty on the internet about Fox, but I'll stand by that because I meant it.


DavidS - Feb 01, 2007 10:33:25 am PST #3842 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think any personal attacks would be Stompy-worthy to the extent that any attack on a poster here would be.

Of course. The question is whether we're distinguishing between "this sucks!" and "you suck!" when the creators are in the house.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 01, 2007 10:34:11 am PST #3843 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

One thing I've been wanting to ask since I've managed to not catch any of the promo(s) - pouts - but have been hesitant to, since the comments about being meh about the promo(s), and the response that the promo(s) represented the show well, was whether the promo(s) represented the style of the show well, the content of the show well, or both.

Because promos can be true to a show in content while being utterly misleading in style and vice versa.


Allyson - Feb 01, 2007 10:35:29 am PST #3844 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think any personal attacks would be Stompy-worthy to the extent that any attack on a poster here would be.

Yeah, I'm with Dana on that. Criticism is all well and good, but if anyone went Kitten on them, well, it should be like that scene in Office Space where they beat the piss out of the fax machine.