Are there BtVS movie fans who hate Joss for what he did with the show? That'd be the most apt comparison in my eyes.
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[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Jessica - Sep 29, 2006 10:04:24 am PDT #1355 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Tom Scola - Sep 29, 2006 10:05:28 am PDT #1356 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Are there BtVS movie fans who hate Joss for what he did with the show?
Fran Kuzui, I suspect. And maybe Paul Ruebens.
Kalshane - Sep 29, 2006 10:39:14 am PDT #1357 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
I'm guessing a lot of us wouldn't be too thrilled if new not-Joss producers did a revamp (so to speak) of Buffy or Firefly 30 years down the line that made use of a completely different tone from the original's.
I honestly think it would depend on if it was any good. Yeah, there'd be an initial concern and some nostalgia (much like how I'm feeling towards the "reboot" with the new Star Trek movie) but in the end it would depend on the final product.
A lot of the complaints, though, are pretty much: Ron Moore is the devil that destroyed everything that was great about the original show. The writing and acting is absolutely terrible. There's no plot, all they do is fight all the time and when they're not fighting, they're having sex.
Which makes me think "Have you actually watched the show, or did you just see the first 5 minutes of the mini and then base everything else on the previews?"
Are there BtVS movie fans who hate Joss for what he did with the show? That'd be the most apt comparison in my eyes.
Actually, when the show first came out, I didn't watch because the previews were making it seem like it was just a bad horror show, whereas I'd been amused by the movie. Then I finally saw the show and realized what it actually was.
Frankenbuddha - Sep 29, 2006 10:42:06 am PDT #1358 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
And maybe Paul Ruebens.
Eh, I suspect he could get behind the change even thought it meant his phenomenal death scene would never fit the show except in a AU-or-otherwise-reality*-bending episode (why do I always type epidose?)
*reality as defined by the series
eta The whole "Kill him! A lot!" would have fit Spike to a T if he'd lost an arm.
Topic!Cindy - Sep 29, 2006 1:22:29 pm PDT #1359 of 10001
What is even happening?
Are there BtVS movie fans who hate Joss for what he did with the show? That'd be the most apt comparison in my eyes.
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§ ita § - Sep 29, 2006 1:31:37 pm PDT #1360 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think they hate what he did to the show, which is different from hating the difference between the movie and the show.
Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 29, 2006 1:38:17 pm PDT #1361 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Unless the original movie featured Amber Benson's still-living character in some scene I missed, anyway.
Strega - Sep 29, 2006 3:25:19 pm PDT #1362 of 10001
I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but my favorite will always be the guy who asked Moore, "When you were following your dream to become a writer, did you ever think that someday you would be using it to crush the dreams of others?"
Bless their fevered brains.
Allyson - Sep 29, 2006 3:29:42 pm PDT #1363 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
"When you were following your dream to become a writer, did you ever think that someday you would be using it to crush the dreams of others?"
That's why I became a writer. For sure.
Topic!Cindy - Sep 29, 2006 3:34:55 pm PDT #1364 of 10001
What is even happening?
I think they hate what he did to the show, which is different from hating the difference between the movie and the show.Details. Details.