Reynolds, I'm a dangerous-minded man on a ship loaded with hurt. Now, why you got me chatting with your peons?

Womack ,'The Message'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 26, 2006 1:14:47 pm PDT #1319 of 10001
What is even happening?

Oh, bah. I thought Standoff was *terrible*. I tried to watch the pilot, mostly for Gina Torres and Ron Livingston, who I adore, and developed an instant hate-on for the two main characters 15 minutes into the show. The writing was pretty dire as well. Tim's involvement would usually mean I'd give anything a try, but with this one, I may have to pass. The scheduling opposite VMars is not helping, either.

I was going to ask what it is, because I hadn't heard of it. Even with this (the above) I have no clue, although I do have a dim memory of learning Gina had a show, I completely forgot about it. If it's opposite Veronica Mars, I can't watch it. Well I could, but when Veronica gets canceled, I'd blame myself. Even though I've never been part of a Nielsen household. Shut up.


§ ita § - Sep 26, 2006 1:17:07 pm PDT #1320 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Posters for Standoff are everywhere here, and I ♥ Ron Livingston (forgot about the Gina thing). Still, never stuck in my head long enough to make it to my TiVo. And the female lead looks annoying.


Kristen - Sep 26, 2006 5:51:19 pm PDT #1321 of 10001

Some of the characters are extremely broadly drawn (like the tactical guy who always wants to go in and blow shit up)

I thought he was less annoying in the last episode. Then again, they did finally give him something to do.


sumi - Sep 27, 2006 9:24:21 am PDT #1322 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

From a Zap2it article about Fox changing it's schedule:

In addition, the industry trades are reporting that "Standoff" is shutting down production for 10 days. That extra time will allow new consulting producer Tim Minear ("Angel") to get up to speed ("You see, Tim, they're hostage negotiators and they're sleeping together. There. You're up to speed."). "Standoff" will have its last pre-baseball airing tonight.


Ailleann - Sep 27, 2006 9:30:09 am PDT #1323 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

You see, Tim, they're hostage negotiators and they're sleeping together. There. You're up to speed.

BWAH. And also, true.


Invisible Green - Sep 27, 2006 10:03:43 am PDT #1324 of 10001

Seriously.


Kristen - Sep 27, 2006 10:42:02 am PDT #1325 of 10001

Now if someone could just make us believe those two things, or even one of those things, I think the show would be vastly improved.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 27, 2006 10:49:29 am PDT #1326 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I suppose I'll watch anything if Tim writes it, but I'm not going to be racing to download previously aired episodes to get the backstory.


Beverly - Sep 27, 2006 10:53:15 am PDT #1327 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I shared the squinty opinion of the pilot ep of Standoff. The second was better. And the third was better by several notches, since it offered Gina more room to play, a juicy bit of backstory fueling some conflict. It could really be a good show with Tim at the helm.


Kristen - Sep 27, 2006 10:57:51 am PDT #1328 of 10001

I thought it was getting better, too, Beverly. But last night's ep was...not so good. It was like a really interesting idea gone horribly wrong.