I don't fancy spending the next month trying to get librarian out of the carpet.

Spike ,'Chosen'


Spike's Bitches 30: Going on Thirteen  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


meara - Jun 15, 2006 10:02:31 am PDT #9956 of 10002

( continues...) seriously just look at Mr. Floyd like he was crazy, start to stand up to object, and the judge, who had his head tilted back and his eyes closed, would say "SUSTAINED" before she even fully stood up, much less said anything). Mr. Floyd seemed to think he was in some kind of circus. Or possibly a movie. He kept trying CRAZYASS tactics to make the story of Paul seem ridiculous.

For example, Mr. Floyd kept coming back to the idea that Paul, Lamiek, Kevin, and Paul's cellie Garvey were all in the cell together, according to Paul. Kept trying to prove there was NO WAY the four men could've all fit there at once! Which, please.

Then Mr Floyd tried to somehow show that Paul being a career snitch meant he was making it up. And that (gasp!) Paul was a ho-mo-SEX-ual! AND has...well, Mr. Floyd wants to be circumspect, he says--Paul is VERY SICK, isn't he? (HIV he doesn't mention, but it's clear. And then Paul's medical records are put in evidence anyway). AND he's on (gasp) PROZAC! So couldn't he just be...DELUSIONAL?!? AND, Kevin is a Muslim. In fact, he may have been functioning as the imam in the cellblock. Calling for prayer (Kevin wore a kufi every day to the trial, pointedly). Preaching to Paul about homosexuality. Didn't Paul HIT ON HIM, and get TURNED DOWN, and get mad and make this up?? PLUS, hadn't Kevin lived in Southeast his whole life? While Lamiek had lived in Northeast? Doesn't that mean they couldn't have known each other before jail? (The prosecution pointed out that Kevin did have a *car*...but them being friends before wasn't really the point, and yet Mr. Floyd kept jumping on the whole geography thing) And isn't it true that Fatima doesn't actually have a cousin named Angela??!?! (The prosecution and defense stipulated that no, Fatima does not have a cousin named Angela. But that didn't mean the conversation didn't take place, it could've just meant Kevin was wrong). Etc. Etc. And on, and on.

And so on, and so forth. Lamiek's lawyer barely even tried. He was a tiny old white man, who didn't say much, didn't ask much, and didn't present any witnesses. Of course, Mr. Floyd presented witnesses that included a woman who came in, said she'd known Kevin from the time he was 2, until he was 12, but couldn't remember his name, and couldn't say that she'd known him, y'know, recently. Um, whatever.

Closing arguments from Mr. Floyd included references to his "good friend" Johnny Cochran, and a long complicated analogy about not being able to make chicken salad out of "chicken poop".

So FINALLY, Tuesday morning, we get to start deliberating. And we all pretty much agree that guilty or not, we want to suggest that Kevin needs a new fucking lawyer. And we talk. And talk. And talk. And have an initial vote. Lamiek, we go 6-6 on. Kevin, it's 10 Not Guilty, 2 Guilty.

So we talk more. And more. And more. We come back on Wednesday. We talk some more.

Wednesday at 12:20, we tell the judge we are deadlocked. He tells us to go get lunch and come back at 2pm. We're pissed. 2pm rolls around, we wait. 2:30 he finally calls us in, and tells us to keep deliberating. We're more annoyed. We go back. Voices are raised.

And basically it comes to that most of us only vaguely trust Paul, as he's incredibly sketchy, but he did come up with good info. And Lamiek did have motive, and he sure as hell had done that kinda shit before. Did he want to KILL her, or just some how get her off the jury? Doesn't matter. Either way, obstruction. And between all the stuff, ELEVEN of us finally agreed that Lamiek was guilty. But one woman would not be swayed.

As for Kevin, there was a lot of evidence from his phone calls that he was a big braggart, who liked to joke around (one of the calls to the lawyer, he's talking to the office staff, and asks if one woman had her baby yet. When told "yes", he's all "Sweet, does it look like me?"). But there was a lot of racial politics discussed, about him telling his son not to trust the police, saying people who work (continued...)


meara - Jun 15, 2006 10:02:38 am PDT #9957 of 10002

( continues...) with the police should die, etc etc. (The jury was four black men, one black woman, and seven white women).

But in the end, NINE of us thought there was reasonable doubt that even IF Kevin said that, that he actually meant it and wasn't just joking. THREE people, though, said they thought he was guilty.

And so in the end, today at about noon, we told the judge we were still deadlocked, and he declared a mistrial and let us go. WHEW

Oh, and I got told by the one younger (black) guy on the jury that I am a "cool-ass white chick". Hey, I'll take it.

See the WashingtonPost for more info (I swear I only just now looked up this information (by only googling his first name! Not a terribly common name)--they very carefully were NOT allowed to tell us that he'd already had another murder trial and been found guilty, though most of us kinda figured that).

Had to cancel my entire trip to Cleveland, for training, and will just go to the office tomorrow.


meara - Jun 15, 2006 10:06:56 am PDT #9958 of 10002

(Um, wow, I didnt' realize that would be THAT many posts! Sorry!)


brenda m - Jun 15, 2006 10:10:11 am PDT #9959 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Just read that in your journal.

That is some whacked-out crazy shit right there.


amych - Jun 15, 2006 10:14:29 am PDT #9960 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Damn, woman. It's like a whole soap opera season crammed into one week, but without the fun parts!


meara - Jun 15, 2006 10:16:09 am PDT #9961 of 10002

Almost two weeks, Amy! Started *last* Monday with jury selection, then three days of trial, we got Friday off, Monday we came back and heard a few more (brief) witnesses, heard closing arguments, and then Tuesday we started deliberating.

It was insane. And I'm sure the government is PISSED there's yet ANOTHER hung jury thing going on....


-t - Jun 15, 2006 10:22:20 am PDT #9962 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Wow, meara, wild stuff!


Frankenbuddha - Jun 15, 2006 10:39:50 am PDT #9963 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Sheesh, no one knows how to properly kill a thread anymore?


SuziQ - Jun 15, 2006 10:41:06 am PDT #9964 of 10002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Was just thinking the same thing, Frank. I was sure I'd come back from lunch to a nice new thread. Instead, it is still this ole thing.


Polter-Cow - Jun 15, 2006 10:42:41 am PDT #9965 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I should have known, with a thread like you, your middle name is Always.