The whole earth may be sucked into Hell, and you want my help 'cause your girlfriend's a big ho?

Buffy ,'Chosen'


Spike's Bitches 30: Going on Thirteen  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Sparky1 - Jun 15, 2006 9:36:47 am PDT #9946 of 10002
Librarian Warlord

Well, as long as you're not driving Erin you should call shotgun and be in charge of the music.

I'm not hungry for lunch, yet, because I didn't have breakfast until after I got to work. Lately, my DH has been eating up all of the good leftovers before I can get to them -- I've decided it's not fair, but I haven't settled on why.


beth b - Jun 15, 2006 9:37:09 am PDT #9947 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

i'll be missing the tread turnover too - now if it was a real turnover, I could call it lunch


vw bug - Jun 15, 2006 9:45:21 am PDT #9948 of 10002
Mostly lurking...

I don't need to get dressed up to go look at apartments, right?


askye - Jun 15, 2006 9:49:49 am PDT #9949 of 10002
Thrive to spite them

No you don't. Although I would suggest wearing comforatable shoes.


vw bug - Jun 15, 2006 9:52:31 am PDT #9950 of 10002
Mostly lurking...

Comfortable shoes. Check.


Calli - Jun 15, 2006 9:53:11 am PDT #9951 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Nah. Wear stuff you can twist and bend in, though, so you can look in cabinets and the like.


Toddson - Jun 15, 2006 9:54:58 am PDT #9952 of 10002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Maybe bring a flashlight to check cabinets and corners?


meara - Jun 15, 2006 10:02:14 am PDT #9953 of 10002

OK. This is going to be long:

We are finally, finally done. Unfortunately, we were unable to come to unanimity, so it is officially a mistrial, but either way, that means I can finally talk about it! (Also that I can finally get back to normal life, thank god! Short days and short commute were all well and good for a day or two, but I feel like I've been travelling for the past two weeks, even though I've been home).

I thought this might be an interesting case, when the first day, in addition to the "do you know any of the defendants, have you been a victim of a crime, do you have relatives in law enforcement" etc regular questions, they also asked us "Are you biased against Muslims or homosexuals?". Hmmm, I think...

Apparently what I should've said is "No, not against them, for them! Can't be unbiased, better let me go!" Instead, I ended up on a jury for nearly two weeks...

The facts go a little something like this:

So. Wayyyy back in 2002, a man named Gerald was beaten and stabbed and died, in an alley in NE Washington. Police found a trail of blood leading out of the alley, and found blood in a car belonging to a guy named Harry. The blood was Gerald's, and a guy named Lamiek's. A woman who lived in a house with windows on the alley, named Fatima, identified Lamiek as being in the alley, beating Gerald. This? Was not that trial.

Lamiek and Harry were put on trial for the murder of Gerald in May 2005. On the day of jury selection, Lamiek's wife Erica ran into one of the jurors, Jovanda, in the bathroom, and realized they all (Erica, Lamiek, and the juror) knew each other from middle school. Jovanda told Erica not to worry, she'd get Lamiek off. Erica and Jovanda called each other on the phone to talk about the case, as it went on--mostly from payphones, but Erica got lazy, and it was hard for her to go to a payphone with her three kids, so she also called Jovanda from home. Big mistake. She ALSO is a moron, and talked to Lamiek (who was in prison) on recorded conversations, where although she didn't QUITE say "the juror is throwing the trial for us", it was pretty darn clear. Jury tampering is a crime. This? Is not that trial.

That jury, for the murder, was a hung jury, due to Jovanda. A new trial was scheduled for later in the summer, but the police and attorneys were as yet unaware of Jovanda's machinations, even though apparently a couple other jurors told them there was something fishy.

Meanwhile, back at the jail, Lamiek is thrilled with the hung jury, but worried abou this retrial coming up. He's bragging to people about how he got off, and isn't it so exciting. Jovanda has told him that the two main issues the jury had, and reasons they wanted to find him guilty, are the DNA evidence (that his and the victim's were found in the alley and the car) and the eyewitness, Fatima. Now, Lamiek claimed Fatima was lying. She hadn't come forward until 16 months after the murder, and there was something about how she said the police showed up right after the beating, and really they didn't show up for several hours. But she had ID'd him in a lineup.

For the DNA issue, he decided he would get his friend Javar, or possibly Javar's mom, to say that Lamiek had cut his hand earlier in the day, and been in the alley, and that's why his DNA was there (Note: nobody I talked to thinks this was actually a GOOD plan, but this was apparently Lamiek's plan). Javar and Erica come to visit Lamiek in prison. They also discuss this plan on recorded conversations from the jail. (again, note that these are not the brightest people in the world...). This? Is not that trial.

So, Lamiek is bragging all up and down the cellblock about his trial. And this guy Paul hears it. Paul is...and interesting character. He was born and raised in Jamaica. When he was 18, he moved up to the states illegally, found himself a sugar daddy, and claims to have attended Temple University under a false name (Temple says they don't have any record of him). Then he moves to DC after a few years, (continued...)


vw bug - Jun 15, 2006 10:02:18 am PDT #9954 of 10002
Mostly lurking...

Maybe bring a flashlight to check cabinets and corners?

Oh, god. Now this is getting scary!


meara - Jun 15, 2006 10:02:25 am PDT #9955 of 10002

( continues...) but since he and the sugar daddy broke up, daddy wants the school money back. So OF COURSE what he has to do is get a job at a bank and start embezzling money. He's completely incompetent, so the Feds catch him, but he rats out his co-embezzlers, and becomes a paid informant for the FBI. For seven years, he's giving them info. Then the IRS catches him filing false tax returns (for other people--not completely clear on what he was doing, but I think he was either makign people up, or using real people without their knowledge, and filing tax returns to get the refunds). The FBI says they can't help him, and he goes to jail for a couple years. They then deport him back to Jamaica in 1999. (Please note, this man is a *complete* flamer) He immediately sneaks back into the US with falsified papers. In 2003 or 2004, he gets arrested when the house he is living in (in NE DC) is raided, and found to have a huge cache of automatic weapons. He claims those are his roommate's, and he only knew that there was a pistol in the kitchen. They also found something like ten different DC drivers licenses with Paul's picture and different names. Apparently he had a friend in the DMV. He's in jail for 14 months, awaiting trial and probable deportation. And by this point, he's also HIV+. So going back to Jamaica does not seem like a good plan.

So when Paul hears Lamiek all braggin' round the jailhouse about this juror he knew and his mistrial, Paul calls the police. Tells them about the Jovanda and Erica thing. Tells them about the DNA plan. Etc. Etc. The police start investigating. Find a lot of evidence (like the phone calls).

And at some point, after Paul has talked to the police a few times, he comes back to them and says "Wait! But there's more!". He says that he was sitting around in his cell, chatting with Lamiek and this other guy Kevin. Lamiek had just found out his new trial was postponed (due to Paul telling the police about the jury tampering thing), and knew he had to "fix two problems"--the DNA thing, and Fatima, the eyewitness. Kevin says wait, where does Fatima live? How old is she? Does she have a cousin named Angela? Kevin thinks he might know her, through this cousin. He and Lamiek chat about Fatima, and Kevin, who is supposed to get out in a month, says "I could go talk to her for you". Lamiek says "no no, you can't do that, because Harry already got in trouble for that kinda thing, obstruction of justice. Besides, she's moved to Virginia" (Note: This is not THAT trial either!). Kevin then says "Well, I can kill her, then". Lamiek says how will he find her? Kevin says he's got this lawyer Doug who knows how to find people.

This? Was the case of Obstruction of Justice, against Lamiek, for trying to get Fatima off the trial. And the case of Threats to a Witness, against Kevin for offering to kill her.

Based on Paul's testimony.

Now, the trial took four days, mostly because of all this background info that they wanted in there. (As you can see, there's a lot of background). But there were some other things they wanted in there. Like a phone call from Kevin to his son, talking about how "All hot motherfuckers gots ta die. Anyone who works for the police 'sposed to die". Phone calls from Kevin to the lawyer (three recorded, one not) that were theoretically after this conversation about how to find Fatima. Of course, the defense wanted to point out that Kevin got out of jail at the beginning of September, and the cops, though they knew about all this in July (when it supposedly happened), just let him check in with parole once a week, until they finally arrested him at the end of October.

The unfortunate (but at the same time, rather entertaining) part of the trial was Kevin's lawyer. Mister Floyd. Mister Floyd thought he was Johnny Friggin' Cochran. He grandstanded. He proclaimed. He loudly didn't understand why the judge was, no shit, sustaining the prosecution's objections before the prosecution even MADE them. (The prosecution lawyer, Ms. Carroll, would (continued...)