Good on you, vw! I actually went to church this morning, due to mom being in town. We went to the COOLEST church--All Saints in Pasadena. You may have heard of it--it's the church the IRS is investigating because of an anti-war sermon. A gorgeous building with Tiffany windows and a tremendously inclusive and activist bent. The female minister gave a sermon about the divisions the Episcopal church is facing over the ordination of gays and compared it to the same divison it went through in the 70s over the ordination of women. She quoted a scholar (don't remember who) that a chiurch can either be ABOUT Christ or OF Christ--either frozen in place and turning inward to fixate on it's own rules or living as a community actively trying to embody Christ's teachings, trying to fight pain and poverty and spread joy. Seems to me you want a church which is the latter.
Kaylee ,'Jaynestown'
Spike's Bitches 30: Going on Thirteen
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Sometimes, even if you go back, walking out is a good way to espress anger - so when you go back to talk about it, people al ready know that you are mad, so you can speak from the rational part of the brain. ( and while I agree with Cindy, that sex should not be a church focus, in some chuches , it becames the focus- which means the church has gone astray) My shoulders and neck are still sore. All we canfigure out is that it was the tiny short bicycle ride yesterday. whic means it is time to pull out the hand weights and strenghten my shoulders again.
I grew up just a couple of miles from All Saints, Robin. Love that church, though I've never been inside.
I just got back from the Save Darfur rally. There were a lot of people, though not as many as I'd expected. I'm not sure what sort of turnout the organizers expected. The speakers I heard were pretty interesting.
Good on you, vw! I actually went to church this morning, due to mom being in town. We went to the COOLEST church--All Saints in Pasadena. You may have heard of it--it's the church the IRS is investigating because of an anti-war sermon.Anti-war? What were they doing--quoting that Jesus guy about turning the other cheek, loving each other, etc. What gall. What noive.
and while I agree with Cindy, that sex should not be a church focus, in some chuches , it becames the focus- which means the church has gone astray
Absolutely.
I just got back from the Save Darfur rally. There were a lot of people, though not as many as I'd expected. I'm not sure what sort of turnout the organizers expected.
Good for you on going, though! I was supposed to go to one up in Boulder today and my car thought otherwise. I feel like an asshole for not going but I watched (still watching, actually) on cspan.
I had a headache when I woke up.
We had to spray for ants.
My head is now ready to explode.
You could come over here and sit on my balcony, Suzi. No ants or kids around.
{{{Suzi}}}
vw, I have no idea what to say, other than I'm behind you. Others have said various wise things for you to consider, and I got nothing to improve any of that considering.
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Yay, beth that the neck and shoulder stuff seems to be muscle soreness rather than injury.
bt, I hope you get some rest, sometime.