Book: Captain, you mind if I say grace? Mal: Only if you say it out loud.

'Serenity'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - May 19, 2006 4:03:18 pm PDT #8236 of 10002

I like the Unit and Bones. And NCIS, as predictable as it is. I never got into VM. The few I saw, annoyed.

In other news, my mom is a big fat generous sap. I got a sweet note from her with a big fat check for Mister Kitty. She knows I don't need the money, that I can cover it myself. She just does this. She did it when the car broke when they were visiting.

It's odd, when I've had to ask them for money because finances were fraught, it's weird and I feel like shit. And yet when I've got plenty of padding and yet they decide to foot a bill? Well, it is still weird but more from the outsider's perspective. It isn't a substitution for anything (nothing is as valuable as all those two weeks of nights she called to check up on things and let me cry and work through the worst of it and gave me a verbal lap to crawl into) and it isn't buying anything. It's just mom. After I quit sniffling, I told her a part was going to some animal charity. Then she started sniffling and told me she wasn't surprised.

And yet, they don't take me seriously when I tell them to buy me a goat for xmas!!

Anyway, I love my family. Can't always explain our shorthand, but they're mine.


Vortex - May 19, 2006 4:04:19 pm PDT #8237 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I like The Unit. Dennis Haysbert makes me shiver. especially when he's shooting things.


sarameg - May 19, 2006 4:12:53 pm PDT #8238 of 10002

Oh, he's awesome. The child soldier ep, when the basically told the kid he lied and kid flipped? Good god, that was fascinating to watch. I also really like the wives stuff. Though the fraud stuff kind of annoyed. They don't need to be Drama, they need to be carving out a life independent, that's enough to be interesting. Though I see the plot value of the fraud stuff . I just would've been happier if it played out more slowly. Or later.


Kristen - May 19, 2006 4:14:41 pm PDT #8239 of 10002

Dennis Haysbert makes me shiver. especially when he's shooting things.

The other night, when they were dealing with the potential nuclear bomb and he was all, "This is my jurisdiction now. You're all under my command. Get me a cup of coffee." It was very rrrowr.


sarameg - May 19, 2006 4:18:34 pm PDT #8240 of 10002

I think I'm a sucker for the torn loyalties parts. I want to take them home and feed them as say "there, there."On a mission, they are basically users (also evidenced by the Browns' "vacation" in one of the last couple of eps.) And that's not a pretty portrayal and the writers aren't really softening that much.


Vortex - May 19, 2006 4:19:06 pm PDT #8241 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

you know what's creepy and wrong? He kinda reminds me of my dad.


sarameg - May 19, 2006 4:35:13 pm PDT #8242 of 10002

Erf. That's ... well.


§ ita § - May 19, 2006 4:42:32 pm PDT #8243 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That would mess me up, Vortex. However, Sidney Poitier slightly reminds me of my father, and I try and push that as far away as possible.

I can mostly see support for everything that happened in the text.

I don't doubt all the clues were there. If I were more of a clue person, it might have had an impact. I just don't feel it was consistently emotionally sold, and that's a much more important and immediate reward for me.

And, like bon, I found it startling to whip away and towards the arc. How could they not care some weeks? Then why should I buy them caring two weeks from now? I think the first year's mystery/mysteries were much better handled, and the emotions of them much better handled. That's why I felt "Oh! Of course!" at the reveals then.

The child soldier bit of The Unit got to me too. I wasn't sure where he was going with it, and somehow I was surprised even as I accepted its inevitability.

And, of course, sad.

Sara, I FFed through the fraud bits, as soon as she started her story. I guessed what was coming, and it was too much angst for me, of the wrong sort.

But don't they say "You can't con an honest man."? Which reminds me--I have an episode of Hustle to watch as soon as I get this load of laundry into the washing machine.


Strega - May 19, 2006 4:43:56 pm PDT #8244 of 10002

Disclaimer: I have had beer, and also a fabulous sandwich, in the interval. Please bear that in mind as I ramble.

ita, it's not that I have my own theory about Lost. I think that...whirr, Lessee. I believe the claims that, when they went in, they had an ending in mind. I believe that everything between the start and the end is improvising. The "we will explain the island only in the last episode when we know the show is cancelled" basically tells me that, whatever the explanation is, it's dumb, because otherwise you could continue the show by dealing with the aftermath of the explanation. Am I making sense? Saying "if we tell you what's really going on, the show's over" means "what's really going on is not a TV show anyone would want to watch."

But I could barely sit through the pilot. I think for people who are watching for the flashbacky format of the episodes, it doesn't matter.

It's just taste in TV. As long as you're not proselytising or getting my shows cancelled, or forcing me to listen to your opinion I don't really care.

Perzactly. I'll happily argue about why the shows I like are the best things evah, and you are silly for watching other things instead, but I don't care. It's just fun to argue, because often the arguing helps me figure out why I like, or don't like, things. See: Doctor Who. Which I believe is probably good in many ways, but it just grates on me. Supernatural is, I think, terrible, but when I remembered to watch it I enjoyed the terribleness. What I choose to watch depends as much, if not more, on "how much fun I have while watching" as "artistic merits."


§ ita § - May 19, 2006 4:45:19 pm PDT #8245 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What I choose to watch depends as much, if not more, on "how much fun I have while watching" as "artistic merits."

Absofrickinglutely. I don't have the patience for spinach TV.

Just back off my Doctor, okay? I'm in love. :)