Yeah, I could do that, but I'm paralyzed with not caring very much.

Spike ,'Showtime'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - May 19, 2006 4:18:34 pm PDT #8240 of 10002

I think I'm a sucker for the torn loyalties parts. I want to take them home and feed them as say "there, there."On a mission, they are basically users (also evidenced by the Browns' "vacation" in one of the last couple of eps.) And that's not a pretty portrayal and the writers aren't really softening that much.


Vortex - May 19, 2006 4:19:06 pm PDT #8241 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

you know what's creepy and wrong? He kinda reminds me of my dad.


sarameg - May 19, 2006 4:35:13 pm PDT #8242 of 10002

Erf. That's ... well.


§ ita § - May 19, 2006 4:42:32 pm PDT #8243 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That would mess me up, Vortex. However, Sidney Poitier slightly reminds me of my father, and I try and push that as far away as possible.

I can mostly see support for everything that happened in the text.

I don't doubt all the clues were there. If I were more of a clue person, it might have had an impact. I just don't feel it was consistently emotionally sold, and that's a much more important and immediate reward for me.

And, like bon, I found it startling to whip away and towards the arc. How could they not care some weeks? Then why should I buy them caring two weeks from now? I think the first year's mystery/mysteries were much better handled, and the emotions of them much better handled. That's why I felt "Oh! Of course!" at the reveals then.

The child soldier bit of The Unit got to me too. I wasn't sure where he was going with it, and somehow I was surprised even as I accepted its inevitability.

And, of course, sad.

Sara, I FFed through the fraud bits, as soon as she started her story. I guessed what was coming, and it was too much angst for me, of the wrong sort.

But don't they say "You can't con an honest man."? Which reminds me--I have an episode of Hustle to watch as soon as I get this load of laundry into the washing machine.


Strega - May 19, 2006 4:43:56 pm PDT #8244 of 10002

Disclaimer: I have had beer, and also a fabulous sandwich, in the interval. Please bear that in mind as I ramble.

ita, it's not that I have my own theory about Lost. I think that...whirr, Lessee. I believe the claims that, when they went in, they had an ending in mind. I believe that everything between the start and the end is improvising. The "we will explain the island only in the last episode when we know the show is cancelled" basically tells me that, whatever the explanation is, it's dumb, because otherwise you could continue the show by dealing with the aftermath of the explanation. Am I making sense? Saying "if we tell you what's really going on, the show's over" means "what's really going on is not a TV show anyone would want to watch."

But I could barely sit through the pilot. I think for people who are watching for the flashbacky format of the episodes, it doesn't matter.

It's just taste in TV. As long as you're not proselytising or getting my shows cancelled, or forcing me to listen to your opinion I don't really care.

Perzactly. I'll happily argue about why the shows I like are the best things evah, and you are silly for watching other things instead, but I don't care. It's just fun to argue, because often the arguing helps me figure out why I like, or don't like, things. See: Doctor Who. Which I believe is probably good in many ways, but it just grates on me. Supernatural is, I think, terrible, but when I remembered to watch it I enjoyed the terribleness. What I choose to watch depends as much, if not more, on "how much fun I have while watching" as "artistic merits."


§ ita § - May 19, 2006 4:45:19 pm PDT #8245 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What I choose to watch depends as much, if not more, on "how much fun I have while watching" as "artistic merits."

Absofrickinglutely. I don't have the patience for spinach TV.

Just back off my Doctor, okay? I'm in love. :)


sarameg - May 19, 2006 5:03:36 pm PDT #8246 of 10002

Sara, I FFed through the

OK, so it wasn't just me. I love the parts where they are kicking ass and taking names or even being confused and trying to figure it out. I just don't see the need for the Drama. Their story is compelling in its simplicity.

I watch tv that I find fun. The rest..well, ok, sometimes I want to know where the plot went (see, my requests for plot points on shows I won't watch anymore, like , oh OC. Or me ff through the last ep of Alias. I NEED to know how it ends.) Also, damn, (don't wf unless...um, you watch shows that air on fridays) Christian Kane can't catch a career break.


Typo Boy - May 19, 2006 5:03:45 pm PDT #8247 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I understand Prison Break's massive lack of realism, but I don't care. House, on the other hand, pushes my buttons, and I can't watch more than five minutes of it without becoming irritated.

Just speculation: but is it because you grew up with your Mom, the brilliant medical researcher? Could that be why medical asspulls bother you more than other types? Or it could be something simpler: prison break may more effectively establish an alternate world for you where different rules apply, while House feels like real world rules should control reality - but they don't.


Strega - May 19, 2006 5:04:06 pm PDT #8248 of 10002

I retain hope that I'll like season 2 more when it comes around. It reminds me of my reaction to Buffy season 1. Everything just feels... off. I sit there feeling like a jerk as everyone around me enthuses about how great it is. It could be that I just need to get over whatever weird subconscious expectations I have.

For cephalopod fans, here is a thought- (and maybe wince-) provoking comic about squid.


§ ita § - May 19, 2006 5:06:35 pm PDT #8249 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's the simpler one, Typo Boy. Plus, I find all the House characters emotionally inaccessible or uninterestingly perplexing. And a little of the former, I guess. I mean, I never got how being brilliant was supposed to be an excuse for being a jackass (thanks for calling my mother brilliant--I do think she is). It's not the sort of flaw I find compelling. I see how it works for palpable charisma or BBoC, but that's what they're about, right?