Book: Where's the doctor? Not back yet? Zoe: (beat) We don't make him hurry for the little stuff. He'll be along. Book: He could hurry... a little.

'Safe'


Natter .44 Magnum: Do You Feel Chatty, Punk?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - May 17, 2006 12:43:48 pm PDT #7847 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

See that's what I would have said but then thought of what part of my face is waxed when I go to get a "lip" wax

That's just because they don't want to say "mustache wax" to a girl.


DavidS - May 17, 2006 12:44:35 pm PDT #7848 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Personally, I think Hec is on the monkey crack.

I am merely reporting common usage. "Upper lip" is the area above your lip but below your nose. Otherwise it is rare to note the toppermost of the two lips, except when describing a snarl or sneer.

Face terminology

Note: "The vertical depression in the center of the upper lip directly under the tip of the nose."

See? Philtrum is in the center of the upper lip. Not above the upper lip.


bon bon - May 17, 2006 12:49:58 pm PDT #7849 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I just noticed this vocabulary deficit last week! I was trying to show Bob someone on TV who had "lined her upper lip. I mean, above her upper lip. Over her lip! The lining is not on the lip!"


§ ita § - May 17, 2006 12:50:11 pm PDT #7850 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"Upper lip" is the area above your lip

You see how wobbly that statement is, right?

it is rare to note the toppermost of the two lips, except when describing a snarl or sneer

How much more common is it to note the lowermost of said lips?


Sean K - May 17, 2006 12:50:31 pm PDT #7851 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Buffistas: the only place outside of professional dentistry communities where maxillo-facial nomenclature warrants in depth discussion.


DavidS - May 17, 2006 12:53:19 pm PDT #7852 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How much more common is it to note the lowermost of said lips?

Bad writers are always overworking the lower lip: "She chewed on her lip thoughtfully" "His lower lip trembled as they lowered the penguin into the deep fat fryer"


Burrell - May 17, 2006 12:55:33 pm PDT #7853 of 10002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Buffistas: the only place outside of professional dentistry communities where maxillo-facial nomenclature warrants in depth discussion.

I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.


§ ita § - May 17, 2006 12:56:06 pm PDT #7854 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Bad writers are always overworking the lower lip: "She chewed on her lip thoughtfully"

We're wobbly again.


DavidS - May 17, 2006 1:16:35 pm PDT #7855 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

We're wobbly again.

As I stuck my tongue around my own mouth, I think the problem is that for naming purposes, medical nomenclature is going to talk about the muscle group, and that includes the whole flap over your upper set of teeth and gums. Not just the labial part where you'd apply lipstick.


§ ita § - May 17, 2006 1:21:50 pm PDT #7856 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

medical nomenclature is going to talk about the muscle group

But there are physiological differences wrt to the labia (upper labia? yeah, never mind)--thinner skinned, less (or no) melanin, more sensitive.

They should discriminate, dammit.

And the tech support guy should come back to my desk so I can leave and get chocolate. Sub par chocolate, but at this point I really don't care.