Angel: Connor, this is Spike and Illyria. Guys, this is Connor. Connor: Hi. umm...I like your outfit. Illyria: Your body warms. This one is lusting after me. Connor: Oh...no, I--I--it's just that it's the outfit. I guess I've had a thing for older women. Angel: They were supposed to fix that.

'Origin'


Natter .44 Magnum: Do You Feel Chatty, Punk?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - May 05, 2006 12:34:47 pm PDT #5655 of 10002

Thank you.

Now I have to decide what I'm doing for dinner, since pretty much everything I have involves defrosting. Sigh.


Sheryl - May 05, 2006 12:35:04 pm PDT #5656 of 10002
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

G had two interviews this week, and one of the places made him a verbal offer. Here's hoping that all goes well with references and such...


Trudy Booth - May 05, 2006 12:36:53 pm PDT #5657 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

There are different categories of DVDs, the ones you sell for a hundred bucks because you're only selling a few and the ones you sell for cheap because you're selling a million.

You could work that sort of thing into the deal. If X sells more than Y units the price for the rights increases. That only benefits the people living on the rights -- they sell more songs at a lower price and can sell some (that never would have sold under the current system) at the higher.

I don't know that F&G's one Styx song necessarily starts a revival, but look what Muriel's Wedding did for ABBA (Mama Mia for one). The way it stands now they're cutting themselves off from that possibility.

Gilligan's Island wasn't re-run ad nauseum because it was so good but because it was so cheap because the actors had lousy contracts -- and now its part of our consciousness well beyond its merits. It would be smart to try and get a bit of that buzz with the periodic cheap deal. WKRP could TOTALLY do that sort of thing.


§ ita § - May 05, 2006 12:38:14 pm PDT #5658 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They're making money off of content they don't own, though.

Hence my parenthetical "this is probably the whole point."


DavidS - May 05, 2006 12:42:04 pm PDT #5659 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't know that F&G's one Styx song necessarily starts a revival

They also did "Lady." Then there was that "Mr. Roboto" in the car (VW?) commercial. I think that was the whole of the Styx revival.


Trudy Booth - May 05, 2006 12:42:17 pm PDT #5660 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

They're making money off of content they don't own, though. It's basically reprinting copyrighted material. I don't think a songwriter is thinking about the advertising, so much, but that they're using someone else's property for their own profit. I don't know if RIAA is involved or not, but I imagine ASCAP and BMI should be.

I assume they are and I'm not saying they shouldn't be. And the songwriters, etc. should absolutely profit (unlike they are now when a show goes un-released).

I'm saying it would behoove the record companies to have a boiler-plate, simplified, rights-obtaining agreement that starts with low payments which would increase with higher sales.


Jesse - May 05, 2006 12:42:21 pm PDT #5661 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

sara: take out.


Spidra Webster - May 05, 2006 12:51:58 pm PDT #5662 of 10002
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

And David and Corwood beat me to the F&G stuff. I know there are a couple songs they couldn't get for the DVD release but I don't know which ones. I suppose I could do a marathon viewing of my VHS F&G and then my DVD F&G...


Lee - May 05, 2006 12:52:38 pm PDT #5663 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I'm down to 3 hours and 8 minutes.

Gross.


Nutty - May 05, 2006 12:58:05 pm PDT #5664 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

There are a lot of songwriters out there just eking a living off of rights

The sad part is how little of the fee actually ends up going to the rightsholder. I was working with fiction writers, pursuing permission to reprint one short story per person, and all of them were appalled that their companies were charging like $2000 for a story, and then the authors themselves were getting like $200 of that.

(All of them had signed the appropriate contracts; there was no illegal hijinkery; they just hadn't actually thought through the part where they're not the ones who get to set the permission fee.)

(Sometimes, having an appalled author on your side is really useful in browbeating the company to lower its fee. And then, as is the case with Edith Wharton's "Roman Fever," the reprint fee is $4700, whether you like it or not.)

(Nobody reprints that story any more, since the fee went up.)