These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


Natter .44 Magnum: Do You Feel Chatty, Punk?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Apr 11, 2006 12:24:14 pm PDT #373 of 10002
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Are there two ells in the root word?

Don't ask me, I just copy-paste.


sarameg - Apr 11, 2006 12:24:51 pm PDT #374 of 10002

You know what's sad? I could hardly tolerate heat in chile until shortly before I moved away from practically the source of the best green chile ever. That's just not right,


Trudy Booth - Apr 11, 2006 12:27:17 pm PDT #375 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

If your assertion is "clearly," then you're some proof short of a point, I think. I don't think it's clear at all, and in fact contradicts the article, as noted. If it's less clear and more an opinion, then that's different to me.

Seemed less than friendly to me. I have no idea how Spidra felt about it.

I do know she apologized to "Spidra, I honestly don't know what answer you're expecting to hear." earlier which stuck me as odd because Spidra's thinking the sandwich was more style than substance isn't what seemed on the rude side to me.

It's less and less pleasant to be here these days and for no good reason.


Spidra Webster - Apr 11, 2006 12:29:16 pm PDT #376 of 10002
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

I just felt I was in a no-win situation there. I wasn't gunning for a debate but if I responded as if I were in a debate, I ran the risk of seeming like I was attacking others. And if I didn't respond, then I feel like it's just assumed my statement is completely unfounded.

I think debate would feel fairly comfortable to me (I am the daughter of an attorney so the house was full of it...so to speak) if I were more sure of my place here. I still feel a bit on the outside looking in.

Anyway, I'll just reiterate that it's damned near never my intention to needle or offend folks so I apologize if that's the effect my posts had.


§ ita § - Apr 11, 2006 12:33:05 pm PDT #377 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Don't ask me, I just copy-paste.

Googling shows lots of hits for the double ell. I was just wondering if that was something someone coined and then took off without a etymologist's blessing.

Seemed less than friendly to me.

It was not unfriendly in intent--it's exactly how I argue semantics, and lord knows, that's not something unfriendly. It's more like breathing.

I have no idea how Spidra felt about it.

It's all about how Spidra feels about it.

which stuck me as odd because Spidra's thinking the sandwich was more style than substance isn't what seemed on the rude side to me.

Again, it's Spidra's call. It's possible she's reading this differently from you.

I understand you don't like it when I argue with you, and try and remind myself not to. But I do want to defend myself here.


Jesse - Apr 11, 2006 12:33:44 pm PDT #378 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

From the outside of that conversation, none of it seemed unpleasant to me. It is not news that ita likes to push back on what she sees as unsupported statements of fact. It doesn't make it a fight, or debate team, or whatever.

If nothing else, it makes for more interesting conversation than "I like X, what do you like?" "I like X too! Also Y." "Ooh, I hate Y!" Not that I'm not perfectly willing to enagage in that kind of thing. But I do find it much more interesting when it's "Why do you think that? Say more about that." On whatever topic.


§ ita § - Apr 11, 2006 12:36:40 pm PDT #379 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Serial so it doesn't get lost:

it's damned near never my intention to needle or offend folks so I apologize if that's the effect my posts had.

Debate doesn't needle or offend me. If it does bother you, I'll try and remember (see above) that you don't like further inquiry or direct disagreement with your posts that make you feel you need to go on the defensive or change my mind.

Honestly, you don't. No one ever does. But I really really do like the architecture of opinions, and peeling back and poking to see what supports them. It's like crack dipped in chocolate to me, and I have entire friendships which seem based primarily on assertion-challenge-defense exchanges. No animosity at all.

Friendship nor even civility for me is based on agreement. I like unravelling points of view. It'd be dry if I couldn't do that with friends.


Hayden - Apr 11, 2006 12:37:07 pm PDT #380 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Well, some of it is. I am fussy, though I've gotten somewhat better as I got older. I discovered I can eat raw spinach, although my tolerance for it is pretty low. Cooked spinach is another bad smell, plus a disgusting texture, bleh. But I quite like cooked spinach as an ingredient in some dishes. Much to my surprise.

Woo-hoo! Come on over to the holistic foods side. We eat some incredible quesadillas over here!


msbelle - Apr 11, 2006 12:37:53 pm PDT #381 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

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Spidra Webster - Apr 11, 2006 12:41:26 pm PDT #382 of 10002
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

Thanks, ita. It's good for me to know where you're coming from. It's not that I never feel like debating or discussing issues with people. I think it's that I'm still unsure enough of my place here to be able to do so confident that friendship and/or civility will survive.