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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Male circumcision doesn't rate an awful lot higher than female circumcision in a lot of places too, but I assume you have no problem with that?
If you're daring to compare one to the other, I have to recuse myself from Natter for awhile, else one of us is going to end up dragged into Bureau for a fine warning, and that person will be me.
If you're daring to compare one to the other,
I'm afraid I am.
I'm perfectly willing to leave it here, but I was simply extending the example you used to point out how the social milieu one is brought up in and exposed to informs one's ideas of 'right' and 'wrong'.
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I was googling my last name with "Sweden" to see how popular my last name is in the homeland
Scandinavian governments keep track of absolutely everything. Åström is the 91st most common name in Sweden and 8740 Swedes claim it.
Jars, I think they're not comparable, because the male sex organ isn't mutilated in a successful circumcision. Circumcised males still feel sexual pleasure, and can climax, and sex isn't painful for them, because they've been circumcised. That's why it's not too useful to equate them.
Cutting off a clitoris is akin to cutting off a penis. Not a foreskin. I'm sorry that you don't see the difference, and think you're incredibly wrong.
Cutting off a clitoris is akin to cutting off a penis. Not a foreskin. I'm sorry that you don't see the difference, and think you're incredibly wrong.
I wasn't using the actual physical consequences as an example; I was pointing out how these things are viewed by society. I'm sorry if I was misinterpreted.
I was pointing out how these things are viewed by society. I'm sorry if I was misinterpreted.
You don't think that the society's views of them are tied to the physical consequences?
If you want to compare apples to apples, I don't know of a single culture that is okay with cutting off a penis.
Take the women away, and he'll probably suffer a rapid demotion. Unless it's blacks or kids or Jews or foreigners or the elderly.
But specifically raped?
And if you're raping the blacks or Jews, etc. you're raping the women. Even if the men are weak and handy as long as there are women* its the women that are raped.
You don't think that the society's views of them are tied to the physical consequences?
I don't think the groups of societies that usually undertake female circumsicion are medically aware enough of the consequences to truly understand them, anymore than a surgeon in the Middle Ages knew why his patients' wounds became infected. These are generally very uneducated groups, and in fact, moving up the social strata in countries where female circumsicion is performed, the numbers drop considerably.