I agree with you, Perkins. As much as I want the rapist (or attempted rapist) to get his face smashed in, chasing him off enough that the woman was safe was job#1. Apprehending him for the police (citizen's arrest and all that) job #3 (making sure the woman's okay would be #2 for me). Cracking him open with a tire iron is dessert, but you will be charged extra for ordering what's not on the menu.
This seems very different to me than the situation with your Krav friend, who was protecting himself from an ongoing danger.
If you subsituted "cop" for "Iggy" in that story, it would bring up words like police brutality and unnecessary use of force, at least for me, and I think that's a dangerous line to cross for anyone.
why is there such a predominance of male-rape-of-female then, if gender isn't an issue?
I would say that adults raping children is nearly as common in some societies, taking children to be a seperate gender. And there definitely is far more male rape of women than other kinds of rape, but it's still rape. Which is an horrific crime. I just don't see how saying that it's men that are to blame helps the situation at all. It's the attacker that's to blame, whether they're male or not.
I do think they assaulted her because she's a woman.
That's a different question, though. Subhuman assholes like this don't even deserve to be called men, let alone define how I feel about half the species.
Subhuman assholes like this don't even deserve to be called men, let alone define how I feel about half the species.
Probably the first time in their lives they've been called anything but Gods. They're good at sports! They're important! Everybody loves them and their rich and, hey, boys horse around...
This seems very different to me than the situation with your Krav friend, who was protecting himself from an ongoing danger.
Absolutely. I'm just saying that if the friend got charged, Ransone
really
needs to get charged, even though the surface of the story is more white-knight and saviourly.
Oh, I think the email is a joke. It's a sick sexist joke, but an idiot college kid joke nonetheless. The year after I graduated, some students found a dead raccoon in the woods and nailed it to a cross in a mock-crucifixion IN THE DORM LIVING ROOM and left it there. Other students were understandably upset, but the crucifying students thought it was hilarious.
ETA: I think it reveals his contempt for women, but I don't think he was planning murder.
I just don't see how saying that it's men that are to blame helps the situation at all.
I don't say that. I know a lot of great men in my family, and I know a lot of great guys on this board. But I also think there's a segment of the culture that encourages men to think of women as property, as unequal, as objects, and not as people.
It doesn't mean every man in the world or the US or the South thinks that way. But I do think it exists.
But do you really think they assaulted the woman in question because they're men?
I think they assaulted the person because she is a woman.
Oh, I think the email is a joke.
Oh, most definitely. A case of 'know your audience' is at work here I think. He's an idiot. An unfunny idiot.