I'm very sorry if she tipped off anyone about your cunningly concealed herd of cows.

Simon ,'Safe'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Apr 05, 2006 11:45:47 am PDT #8906 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Subhuman assholes like this don't even deserve to be called men, let alone define how I feel about half the species.

Probably the first time in their lives they've been called anything but Gods. They're good at sports! They're important! Everybody loves them and their rich and, hey, boys horse around...


DXMachina - Apr 05, 2006 11:45:47 am PDT #8907 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

How Lazy Mole-Rats Serve Their Queen.


§ ita § - Apr 05, 2006 11:46:33 am PDT #8908 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This seems very different to me than the situation with your Krav friend, who was protecting himself from an ongoing danger.

Absolutely. I'm just saying that if the friend got charged, Ransone really needs to get charged, even though the surface of the story is more white-knight and saviourly.


Scrappy - Apr 05, 2006 11:46:40 am PDT #8909 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Oh, I think the email is a joke. It's a sick sexist joke, but an idiot college kid joke nonetheless. The year after I graduated, some students found a dead raccoon in the woods and nailed it to a cross in a mock-crucifixion IN THE DORM LIVING ROOM and left it there. Other students were understandably upset, but the crucifying students thought it was hilarious.

ETA: I think it reveals his contempt for women, but I don't think he was planning murder.


Dana - Apr 05, 2006 11:48:07 am PDT #8910 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I just don't see how saying that it's men that are to blame helps the situation at all.

I don't say that. I know a lot of great men in my family, and I know a lot of great guys on this board. But I also think there's a segment of the culture that encourages men to think of women as property, as unequal, as objects, and not as people.

It doesn't mean every man in the world or the US or the South thinks that way. But I do think it exists.


Allyson - Apr 05, 2006 11:48:14 am PDT #8911 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

But do you really think they assaulted the woman in question because they're men?

I think they assaulted the person because she is a woman.


Jars - Apr 05, 2006 11:49:03 am PDT #8912 of 10001

Oh, I think the email is a joke.

Oh, most definitely. A case of 'know your audience' is at work here I think. He's an idiot. An unfunny idiot.


DavidS - Apr 05, 2006 11:49:25 am PDT #8913 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

there's the unmistakable sense that McFadyen certainly didn't think of the woman as human -- I mean, he said he was going to kill her.

Not to excuse him, but I didn't take his comments about killing and skinning strippers at face value but simply purposefully outrageous. Your basic fratboy rapist isn't really Ed Gein, but he would certainly say the most demeaning or shocking thing he could about women. That would have some currency in his culture, indicating that he's not some pussywhipped PC girlyman.

In sum: thoroughly loathsome rapist but of the stupid braggy type, rather than the insane serial killer stripe.

xpost with Scrappy the Wise.


JZ - Apr 05, 2006 11:50:50 am PDT #8914 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Every time I start to post something, I click "refresh" first and find that Dana has said it, only more concisely and eloquently.


Lee - Apr 05, 2006 11:51:35 am PDT #8915 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Absolutely. I'm just saying that if the friend got charged, Ransone really needs to get charged, even though the surface of the story is more white-knight and saviourly.

Yep. I don't actually think your friend should have been charged, based on what you've said, but that's a different story.