Willow: Yes. Hi. You must be Angel's handsome, yet androgynous, son. Connor: It's Connor. Willow: And the sneer's genetic. Who knew?

'A Hole in the World'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jars - Apr 05, 2006 11:49:03 am PDT #8912 of 10001

Oh, I think the email is a joke.

Oh, most definitely. A case of 'know your audience' is at work here I think. He's an idiot. An unfunny idiot.


DavidS - Apr 05, 2006 11:49:25 am PDT #8913 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

there's the unmistakable sense that McFadyen certainly didn't think of the woman as human -- I mean, he said he was going to kill her.

Not to excuse him, but I didn't take his comments about killing and skinning strippers at face value but simply purposefully outrageous. Your basic fratboy rapist isn't really Ed Gein, but he would certainly say the most demeaning or shocking thing he could about women. That would have some currency in his culture, indicating that he's not some pussywhipped PC girlyman.

In sum: thoroughly loathsome rapist but of the stupid braggy type, rather than the insane serial killer stripe.

xpost with Scrappy the Wise.


JZ - Apr 05, 2006 11:50:50 am PDT #8914 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Every time I start to post something, I click "refresh" first and find that Dana has said it, only more concisely and eloquently.


Lee - Apr 05, 2006 11:51:35 am PDT #8915 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Absolutely. I'm just saying that if the friend got charged, Ransone really needs to get charged, even though the surface of the story is more white-knight and saviourly.

Yep. I don't actually think your friend should have been charged, based on what you've said, but that's a different story.


Dana - Apr 05, 2006 11:52:01 am PDT #8916 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Every time I start to post something, I click "refresh" first and find that Dana has said it, only more concisely and eloquently.

t preens


Jessica - Apr 05, 2006 11:52:58 am PDT #8917 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

A case of 'know your audience' is at work here I think. He's an idiot. An unfunny idiot.

"Idiot" is the kind of word I reserve for people who aren't also rapists. Something a bit stronger is in order here, I think.


ChiKat - Apr 05, 2006 11:53:48 am PDT #8918 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I do think they assaulted her because she's a woman.

That's a different question, though. Subhuman assholes like this don't even deserve to be called men, let alone define how I feel about half the species.

And, I think this may be the crux of the discussion. We have one group looking at this from the perpetrator side (subhumans) and others looking at it from the victim's side (women--mostly).

Is this a gendered problem from the subhuman side? No. Not all subhumans are men and not all men are subhumans.

Is this a gendered problem from the victim's side? I say yes because the victims are usually women. Should it be is another question. And, no, it shouldn't be. It should be a human problem, but it realistically isn't.


tommyrot - Apr 05, 2006 11:55:53 am PDT #8919 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

ION, 9,000-Year-Old Dental Drill Is Found

WASHINGTON -- Proving prehistoric man's ingenuity and ability to withstand and inflict excruciating pain, researchers have found that dental drilling dates back 9,000 years.

Primitive dentists drilled nearly perfect holes into live but undoubtedly unhappy patients between 5500 B.C. and 7000 B.C., an article in Thursday's journal Nature reports. Researchers carbon-dated at least nine skulls with 11 drill holes found in a Pakistan graveyard.

That means dentistry is at least 4,000 years older than first thought -- and far older than the useful invention of anesthesia.

This was no mere tooth tinkering. The drilled teeth found in the graveyard were hard-to-reach molars. And in at least one instance, the ancient dentist managed to drill a hole in the inside back end of a tooth, boring out toward the front of the mouth.

The holes went as deep as one-seventh of an inch (3.5 millimeters).

"The holes were so perfect, so nice," said study co-author David Frayer, an anthropology professor at the University of Kansas. "I showed the pictures to my dentist and he thought they were amazing holes."

How it was done is painful just to think about. Researchers figured that a small bow was used to drive the flint drill tips into patients' teeth. Flint drill heads were found on site. So study lead author Roberto Macchiarelli, an anthropology professor at the University of Poitiers, France, and colleagues simulated the technique and drilled through human (but no longer attached) teeth in less than a minute.

"Definitely it had to be painful for the patient," Macchiarelli said.


Jars - Apr 05, 2006 11:56:40 am PDT #8920 of 10001

I think they assaulted the person because she is a woman.

Well, yes. Would you feel it was a gender issue if you read about a man being raped by his husband, or a friend? Or a girl being raped by her girlfriend, or a female friend? Or an elderly person being raped by a person in a position of power?

I just don't want to feel more outraged for a woman victim simply because I identify more with her, or because women are more often the victims of rape. I feel like that means there's less outrage for other victims.

"Idiot" is the kind of word I reserve for people who aren't also rapists. Something a bit stronger is in order here, I think.

I didn't realise he was actually one of the people implicated in the case. In that case, yes, I think you might be right.


erikaj - Apr 05, 2006 11:57:22 am PDT #8921 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Still loving Ziggy, although he may be "off the hook" in real life, too. Although I've long thought of him as heroic to Buffistas(not just because "he's" well-endowed, but because his character took a moment during a murder confession to pick a word that "just sounds better, you know?") We would do that. If we didn't know to lawyer up early and often after opening fire in an electronics store, that is.