Illyria: We cling to what is gone. Is there anything in this life but grief? Wesley: There's love. There's hope...for some. There's hope that you'll find something worthy...that your life will lead you to some joy...that after everything...you can still be surprised. Illyria: Is that enough? Is that enough to live on?

'Shells'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Rick - Apr 04, 2006 12:33:21 pm PDT #8562 of 10001

Maybe Jesus used a robotic submarine that traveled under the ice and held it up as he walked above it...

Or a submersible Zamboni.


Jesse - Apr 04, 2006 12:33:42 pm PDT #8563 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Piercing all up my left ear? Just because I wanted to.

I think that's enough of a why, though. I just figure that people doing more extreme stuff might have more complex answers. But that's just a guess.


Jessica - Apr 04, 2006 12:33:49 pm PDT #8564 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I don't think there's any reason to assume that tastes outside societal norms require more complex motivations than tastes within them.

(For me, piercings are out of the question because they tend to result in severe eczema at the site. Unfortunately.)


brenda m - Apr 04, 2006 12:34:30 pm PDT #8565 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Maybe Jesus used a robotic submarine that traveled under the ice and held it up as he walked above it....

Yeah, pretty sure that's in the Book of Kodos. Or possibly Kang, I disremember.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 04, 2006 12:34:59 pm PDT #8566 of 10001
What is even happening?

A digital sign of our times -- at 1:02:03 am tomorrow morning, April 5, 2006, it will be 01-02-03-04-05-06.

Narrator, isn't that cool? I'm ruling in their ruling out of 1:02:03 pm though, just because I like to sleep I can.


§ ita § - Apr 04, 2006 12:36:02 pm PDT #8567 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think there's any reason to assume that tastes outside societal norms require more complex motivations than tastes within them.

Yeah--once you've broken that barrier, there doesn't need to be a depth to it.

Although I'm sure there sometimes is. Controlled cutting impulses, for one. Aesthetics. Whatever.


Jesse - Apr 04, 2006 12:36:08 pm PDT #8568 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I don't think there's any reason to assume that tastes outside societal norms require more complex motivations than tastes within them.

Yeah, maybe not. I mean, most people's reason for doing anything is probably "because I want to." I know that the teacher at my old job who had big disks in her ears and lip (edit: and tattoos on her face. heh -- I forgot about that) had reasons beyond "it's pretty," but it's not a requirement or anything.


Lee - Apr 04, 2006 12:42:47 pm PDT #8569 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I can't speak for anyone else, even on if tattoos are more complex than multiple ear piercings, but the sole reasons for getting mine were "I want" and "pretty".


Topic!Cindy - Apr 04, 2006 12:49:14 pm PDT #8570 of 10001
What is even happening?

I don't think there's any reason to assume that tastes outside societal norms require more complex motivations than tastes within them.
I see what you mean, but I keep thinking the more complex the act and its consequences, the more possible the motives were more complex.


§ ita § - Apr 04, 2006 12:50:05 pm PDT #8571 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When you call the consequences complex, what do you mean?