Get up...get up, you stupid piece of... What did you do that for? What's wrong with you? Didn't you hear a word he said? All of you! You think there's someone just going to drop money on you?! Money they could use?! Well, there ain't people like that. There's just people like me.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Mar 31, 2006 6:03:47 am PST #7547 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Hec, you worked for HR, right? So even more shocking that your bosses can't handle a termination more gracefully.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 31, 2006 6:04:14 am PST #7548 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I live in NY, but every it seems like it is very hard to get fired from the University. They might have some fear of being sued, henced insano rules, though.


flea - Mar 31, 2006 6:06:50 am PST #7549 of 10001
information libertarian

Hec, you might look into HR or other support (but my impression is HR pays best) positions at local Universities or publishing houses. They are generally a lot less firing-happy than, say, law firms, and the whole publishing thing could be a gateway into more satisfying work.


Jesse - Mar 31, 2006 6:07:57 am PST #7550 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

There is often CYA anti-lawsuit stuff, but state law says you can get rid of anyone whenever you want.


shrift - Mar 31, 2006 6:08:47 am PST #7551 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Okay, so it looks like Big Boss won't be in his office for a little while. Therefore I shall send him an e-mail asking for a quick meeting at his convenience.

Because my immediate supervisor just told me he's leaving shortly for an appointment.

Okay. Well, that simplifies things.


tommyrot - Mar 31, 2006 6:10:41 am PST #7552 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Because my immediate supervisor just told me he's leaving shortly for an appointment.

Before he leaves, tape a note to his back that says, "Someone in my staff is quitting."


Nora Deirdre - Mar 31, 2006 6:10:57 am PST #7553 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

They are trying to avoid you so you can't give them notice! Don't let them!


flea - Mar 31, 2006 6:13:23 am PST #7554 of 10001
information libertarian

Sneak into their offices and wipe their computers while they are gone!! Oh, wait. That's if they were getting rid of you, not vice versa.


Jesse - Mar 31, 2006 6:18:51 am PST #7555 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh god, I've totally had that happen -- it's so traumatic waiting around for a boss to be available for quitting!


DavidS - Mar 31, 2006 6:20:25 am PST #7556 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I can't even believe Hec's employers can do that! I always thought you had to have written warnings and counselings and such before you were fired (unless your position was eliminated).

I'm guessing California, like New York, is an at-will employment state. As long as they aren't firing you for being black (female, etc. -- in a protected class), they don't have to give a reason at all.

Hec, you worked for HR, right? So even more shocking that your bosses can't handle a termination more gracefully.

As Jesse notes, it's an at-will state. But as Sophia and Theo note, they really handled it terribly and also (just from an HR perspective) left themselves open (just barely) to a wrongful termination suit.

I don't think I have a viable case, but by not documenting anything beforehand they left themselves vulnerable to an age-discrimination suit. My new (now ex) coworker is 23. If they hire another 23 y.o. woman for my position they're not going to look good. Particularly since when I and my original coworker were hired, there was much talk in the firm about the fact that we were men in our early 40s, and this was unusual and actually ruffling some feathers.

I know they were talking to one of the labor law Partners about the situation.

I don't want to paint a distorted picture of me as the perfect employee. I wasn't. I resented having my responsibilities with the recruiter scaled back to the level of typing and data input. My filing was way behind. But I did create a lot of systems to deal with the office's gaping holes. I built the MCLE tracking database from scratch and ran it for three cycles. Did quarterly vacation balance reports by downloading data from their crap-ass tracking system which didn't even do year-to-date accruals. I knew the payroll system, the applicant tracking system, the personnel action system way way better than anybody in my unit.

There were many things I did for them, and could do for them, but in the end they really wanted a glorified filing clerk.