I'll be fine. I'll be your bounty, Jubal Early. And I'll just fade away.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Lee - Mar 29, 2006 12:18:01 pm PST #7108 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

My high school Latin teacher was let go for being morally wrong.

eta: poor ita.


Gudanov - Mar 29, 2006 12:19:51 pm PST #7109 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

So you're saying it's morally wrong to teach Latin.


§ ita § - Mar 29, 2006 12:20:30 pm PST #7110 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

you don't think it's morally wrong to not learn latin?

No. I think it's ethically wrong not to.


Nutty - Mar 29, 2006 12:21:36 pm PST #7111 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Ablatives for everybody!


Topic!Cindy - Mar 29, 2006 12:24:57 pm PST #7112 of 10001
What is even happening?

My "world view" might include the belief that "It's best not to be mean to people, if possible," but that I might have come to that belief independent of any consideration whether there's a God or not....

How is it independent of it? I mean, in a sense, I see what you mean: You and I agree that it is best not to be mean to people, and we come to that conclusion despite differing views on the supernatural; I would still think it was wrong to be mean, even if my religious views changed.

That said, part of my world view acknowledges that other people have rights and deserve to be treated fairly when possible. Because you've said that when possible, it's best not to be mean to others, I feel safe in assuming you feel similarly.

Somewhere though, in what you think of the world and how it all works, and why we are here--lies the reason behind your conclusion that it's best not to be mean. It may be that you think we're all lucky to be here by accident, and it is best for society if we all play nice, and we're all we've got, but somewhere in there, there's a foundation for your reason that we ought not to be mean, and and some point back, it ties into what you think about world.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 29, 2006 12:27:54 pm PST #7113 of 10001
What is even happening?

Very easily, actually -- I know pently of people for whom the question of God's existance is completely irrelevant.

Yes, of course. So do I, but how could that (which, when leaving out supernatural boils down to "the natural world is either all we've got or all I we can know about") not inform/influence/form the basis for their moral belief? I'm not saying it predicts what the beliefs are. I think that's a naive stance and I find it offensive when I see other theists take it.


Jessica - Mar 29, 2006 12:28:36 pm PST #7114 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Somewhere though, in what you think of the world and how it all works, and why we are here--lies the reason behind your conclusion

This is part of your worldview, though. Why do you believe it must be part of everyone's?


tommyrot - Mar 29, 2006 12:29:15 pm PST #7115 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Somewhere though, in what you think of the world and how it all works, and why we are here--lies the reason behind your conclusion that it's best not to be mean.

See, I don't know what that reason is. I don't know where that belief came from.

there's a foundation for your reason that we ought not to be mean, and and some point back, it ties into what you think about world.

Dunno - maybe it's just part of my personality (like my appreciation of hairless cats).


Topic!Cindy - Mar 29, 2006 12:29:32 pm PST #7116 of 10001
What is even happening?

Jess, what's one thing you think is wrong (or usually wrong)?


Jessica - Mar 29, 2006 12:30:48 pm PST #7117 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Jess, what's one thing you think is wrong (or usually wrong)?

I don't think that's relevant either. I want to know why you think there are reasons behind moral judgments.