Dawn: I feel safe with you. Spike: Take that back!

'First Date'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


shrift - Mar 29, 2006 11:54:12 am PST #7087 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Right. No panicking. I'm not totally incompetent. I have a large amount of money saved.

Still need the bacon.


tommyrot - Mar 29, 2006 11:54:27 am PST #7088 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Hello! Not my meeting! Not my specialty, nor my purview.

Huh. Do your utility closets have room numbers?


Jessica - Mar 29, 2006 11:56:59 am PST #7089 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Everyone in the world bases moral judgments on beliefs about the supernatural (because beliefs about the supernatural include those who believe nature is the only reality--that is, that there is no supernatural)

There are two ridiculous generalizations in this statement. One, that all atheists base their moral judgments on their belief that there is no God. Two, that all theists base their moral judgments on their belief that there is.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 29, 2006 11:58:16 am PST #7090 of 10001
What is even happening?

Dunno if I like the logic here. You could also say:

Everyone in the world bases moral judgments on beliefs about the FSM (because beliefs about the FSM include those who believe nature is the only reality--that is, that there is no FSM)

Describe to me how a person's world view does not affect his moral judgments. It's impossible.

Theocracy just seems like a bad idea in general.

Agreed.

I think that you are leaping out of the Abyss.
What Rick said.


brenda m - Mar 29, 2006 11:58:42 am PST #7091 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Anyone subscribe to The Chronicle of Higher Education?

Insent in a mo


tommyrot - Mar 29, 2006 11:59:33 am PST #7092 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Yay! Thanks....


Topic!Cindy - Mar 29, 2006 11:59:57 am PST #7093 of 10001
What is even happening?

There are two ridiculous generalizations in this statement. One, that all atheists base their moral judgments on their belief that there is no God. Two, that all theists base their moral judgments on their belief that there is.

Then either I did a bad job explaining myself or you're reading way more into it than I meant to convey. Your world view is going to affect your moral judgments, is what I was trying to get at.


Jessica - Mar 29, 2006 12:00:21 pm PST #7094 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Describe to me how a person's world view does not affect his moral judgments.

Describe to me how "world view" = "belief/lack of belief in God"


tommyrot - Mar 29, 2006 12:02:02 pm PST #7095 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

My "world view" might include the belief that "It's best not to be mean to people, if possible," but I might have come to that belief independent of any consideration whether there's a God or not....


Topic!Cindy - Mar 29, 2006 12:03:42 pm PST #7096 of 10001
What is even happening?

How could it not include that, Jessica?

I'm not going (nor did I ever intend to go) any where near the ridiculous statement you hear from some theists that non-theists have no morals. But what you think about the world, why it is here, why you're here, what your rights and responsibilities are, what is good and what is bad, etc--that's your world view. How can that not affect your moral judgments?