Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard.

Dream Girl ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Tom Scola - Mar 28, 2006 6:16:43 am PST #6546 of 10001
Where do you come from? Where do you go? What is your scene, baby? We just gotta know.

why did they need a spacesuit to fire a gun?

Will a gun fire without oxygen?


Ailleann - Mar 28, 2006 6:16:54 am PST #6547 of 10001
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Nebbermind. X-posty goodness.


Dana - Mar 28, 2006 6:17:02 am PST #6548 of 10001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Now that I think about it, why did they need a spacesuit to fire a gun?

Something about oxygen, wasn't it?


tommyrot - Mar 28, 2006 6:17:30 am PST #6549 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Now that I think about it, why did they need a spacesuit to fire a gun?

Yeah, that bothered me. I don't think you'd need external oxygen for the chemical reaction to occur inside the shell casing.

But, whatev....


tommyrot - Mar 28, 2006 6:20:20 am PST #6550 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Will a gun fire without oxygen?

The actual stuff that goes "boom" in the gun wouldn't need oxygen, as it already has it in chemical form - much like a solid-fuel rocket. The only other issue is the percussion cap, which ignites the chemicals in the shell when it's hit by the firing pin. I don't think that need external oxygen either, but I don't know what kind of chemical reaction is occuring there....


Gudanov - Mar 28, 2006 6:20:25 am PST #6551 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Will a gun fire without oxygen?

The cartridge has carries it's own oxidizing agent. Aren't there anti-shark weapons that fire a shotgun shell underwater? I didn't give it a second thought when I saw the show, but on second thought, I don't think you need an oxygen supply.

It's not very important, just a struck me upon seeing the quote.

Edit: Talking about whether a gun will work in space is a male cliche, isn't it. Damn.


tommyrot - Mar 28, 2006 6:23:23 am PST #6552 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Aren't there anti-shark weapons that fire a shotgun shell underwater?

Yeah, you'd think that anti-shark guns would still fire if one encountered a Space Shark.


Nutty - Mar 28, 2006 6:23:40 am PST #6553 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Don't quote me, but isn't the "chemical reaction" in a shell casing dependent on O2 to actually burn? Most firey explosions have that problem.

I mean, the way the episode was set up, it wasn't exactly a plot point; I thought it was a nice nod to Physics Reality.


sarameg - Mar 28, 2006 6:25:18 am PST #6554 of 10001

Chocolate never belongs in oatmeal cookies. Blerg. Raisins are fine, though.


Gudanov - Mar 28, 2006 6:25:30 am PST #6555 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Don't quote me, but isn't the "chemical reaction" in a shell casing dependent on O2 to actually burn? Most firey explosions have that problem.

It has it's own O2. If it didn't, the cartridge would do more of a smolder than a bang.