Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Tom Scola - Mar 28, 2006 6:16:43 am PST #6546 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

why did they need a spacesuit to fire a gun?

Will a gun fire without oxygen?


Ailleann - Mar 28, 2006 6:16:54 am PST #6547 of 10001
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Nebbermind. X-posty goodness.


Dana - Mar 28, 2006 6:17:02 am PST #6548 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Now that I think about it, why did they need a spacesuit to fire a gun?

Something about oxygen, wasn't it?


tommyrot - Mar 28, 2006 6:17:30 am PST #6549 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Now that I think about it, why did they need a spacesuit to fire a gun?

Yeah, that bothered me. I don't think you'd need external oxygen for the chemical reaction to occur inside the shell casing.

But, whatev....


tommyrot - Mar 28, 2006 6:20:20 am PST #6550 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Will a gun fire without oxygen?

The actual stuff that goes "boom" in the gun wouldn't need oxygen, as it already has it in chemical form - much like a solid-fuel rocket. The only other issue is the percussion cap, which ignites the chemicals in the shell when it's hit by the firing pin. I don't think that need external oxygen either, but I don't know what kind of chemical reaction is occuring there....


Gudanov - Mar 28, 2006 6:20:25 am PST #6551 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Will a gun fire without oxygen?

The cartridge has carries it's own oxidizing agent. Aren't there anti-shark weapons that fire a shotgun shell underwater? I didn't give it a second thought when I saw the show, but on second thought, I don't think you need an oxygen supply.

It's not very important, just a struck me upon seeing the quote.

Edit: Talking about whether a gun will work in space is a male cliche, isn't it. Damn.


tommyrot - Mar 28, 2006 6:23:23 am PST #6552 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Aren't there anti-shark weapons that fire a shotgun shell underwater?

Yeah, you'd think that anti-shark guns would still fire if one encountered a Space Shark.


Nutty - Mar 28, 2006 6:23:40 am PST #6553 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Don't quote me, but isn't the "chemical reaction" in a shell casing dependent on O2 to actually burn? Most firey explosions have that problem.

I mean, the way the episode was set up, it wasn't exactly a plot point; I thought it was a nice nod to Physics Reality.


sarameg - Mar 28, 2006 6:25:18 am PST #6554 of 10001

Chocolate never belongs in oatmeal cookies. Blerg. Raisins are fine, though.


Gudanov - Mar 28, 2006 6:25:30 am PST #6555 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Don't quote me, but isn't the "chemical reaction" in a shell casing dependent on O2 to actually burn? Most firey explosions have that problem.

It has it's own O2. If it didn't, the cartridge would do more of a smolder than a bang.