But I understand. You gave up everything you had to find me. And you found me broken. It's hard for you.

River ,'Safe'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Mar 10, 2006 5:32:39 am PST #3165 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

IMO the reason the right is so strong is that there are a lot of one issue voters with one fervent side and one lukewarm side and the democrats are on the lukewarm side of most of them. Abortion, homosexuality, guns, national security, taxes, etc...

There are lots of people who think that the democrats stand for abortion, gun-control, more government regulation, and more taxes. Who the heck wants that?


Gudanov - Mar 10, 2006 5:33:12 am PST #3166 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Who is James Blunt?


Jesse - Mar 10, 2006 5:33:53 am PST #3167 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

There are lots of people who think that the democrats stand for abortion, gun-control, more government regulation, and more taxes. Who the heck wants that?

I do! I do!


msbelle - Mar 10, 2006 5:35:34 am PST #3168 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

OH! ME TOO!! I think it is what Jesus would want, given the current world situation.


Gudanov - Mar 10, 2006 5:36:32 am PST #3169 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I do! I do!

Well sure, but you're a New Yorker.


§ ita § - Mar 10, 2006 5:36:46 am PST #3170 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Jesus supports that in email.


Jesse - Mar 10, 2006 5:38:16 am PST #3171 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Well sure, but you're a New Yorker.

Too true. This is reason #1 why I can never leave.


Sean K - Mar 10, 2006 5:40:19 am PST #3172 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

It's funny/ironic/sad that I've more than once had the conversation where the person I was talking to swapped "Americans" for "Christianity" in the above sentiment. With the undertone that I was doing something wrong for being among the enemy.

Lessons in why one shouldn't generalized, and why it's sometimes very hard not to do so.

There's a christian left too and lots of christian liberals. However, they are not politically important.

I know, the vst majority of my Christian friends and family are lefty, or at least lean left. That doesn't make me any less soured, or make the conversations any easier.

There are lots of people who think that the democrats stand for abortion, gun-control, more government regulation, and more taxes. Who the heck wants that?

And that's why I'm starting to sour on the Democratic party, even though that leaves me with options numbering zero. I grew up in the area around a very working class city, believing that the Democratic party was the party of the working class, and of individual rights and freedoms. Hell, Detroit was one of the cities that helped make the Democrats the party of the working class.

And that's part of why I won't be a Libertarian -- I believe there should be and needs to be laws regulating business, protecting the workers and consumers. This is, as I understand it, completely antithetical to the Libertarian party, which I would otherwise be inclined to join.


Calli - Mar 10, 2006 5:41:37 am PST #3173 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

There are lots of people who think that the democrats stand for abortion, gun-control, more government regulation, and more taxes. Who the heck wants that?

Me! Me! And I'm down in quasi-Bible-Beltish North Carolina too, y'all. (Maybe not for much longer if some folks in Traverse City want to give me a job, but for the moment.)


Allyson - Mar 10, 2006 5:44:23 am PST #3174 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Hey, my ex-military, prison guard, former O'Reilly watching brother came out to me as a Democrat with a capital D the other day.

I'm full of sunshine and hope.