Kaylee: Captain seem a little funny to you at breakfast this morning? Wash: Come on, Kaylee. We all know I'm the funny one.

'Heart Of Gold'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Mar 10, 2006 5:36:46 am PST #3170 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Jesus supports that in email.


Jesse - Mar 10, 2006 5:38:16 am PST #3171 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Well sure, but you're a New Yorker.

Too true. This is reason #1 why I can never leave.


Sean K - Mar 10, 2006 5:40:19 am PST #3172 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

It's funny/ironic/sad that I've more than once had the conversation where the person I was talking to swapped "Americans" for "Christianity" in the above sentiment. With the undertone that I was doing something wrong for being among the enemy.

Lessons in why one shouldn't generalized, and why it's sometimes very hard not to do so.

There's a christian left too and lots of christian liberals. However, they are not politically important.

I know, the vst majority of my Christian friends and family are lefty, or at least lean left. That doesn't make me any less soured, or make the conversations any easier.

There are lots of people who think that the democrats stand for abortion, gun-control, more government regulation, and more taxes. Who the heck wants that?

And that's why I'm starting to sour on the Democratic party, even though that leaves me with options numbering zero. I grew up in the area around a very working class city, believing that the Democratic party was the party of the working class, and of individual rights and freedoms. Hell, Detroit was one of the cities that helped make the Democrats the party of the working class.

And that's part of why I won't be a Libertarian -- I believe there should be and needs to be laws regulating business, protecting the workers and consumers. This is, as I understand it, completely antithetical to the Libertarian party, which I would otherwise be inclined to join.


Calli - Mar 10, 2006 5:41:37 am PST #3173 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

There are lots of people who think that the democrats stand for abortion, gun-control, more government regulation, and more taxes. Who the heck wants that?

Me! Me! And I'm down in quasi-Bible-Beltish North Carolina too, y'all. (Maybe not for much longer if some folks in Traverse City want to give me a job, but for the moment.)


Allyson - Mar 10, 2006 5:44:23 am PST #3174 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Hey, my ex-military, prison guard, former O'Reilly watching brother came out to me as a Democrat with a capital D the other day.

I'm full of sunshine and hope.


Sean K - Mar 10, 2006 5:45:42 am PST #3175 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

There are lots of people who think that the democrats stand for abortion, gun-control, more government regulation, and more taxes. Who the heck wants that?

Me! Me!

And I should be clear, I actually want all those things too. It's not the issues that are driving a wedge between me and the Dem party leadership, it's the way they handle it, and the way they can't understand that the image they project nowadays is causing them so many problems come election time.


sarameg - Mar 10, 2006 5:45:45 am PST #3176 of 10001

AND you have an adorable nephew!

I envy you. Last I saw mine, he was totally monopolized by the evil other grandma.


Gudanov - Mar 10, 2006 5:47:28 am PST #3177 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Let's see, I'm not really for abortion, but I'm not comfortable with the state deciding that for people there might be some restrictions I'm okay with.

I'm not that big on gun-control either. I do think local governments should be able to do some things if they are having a problem with gun violence, but the 2nd admendment limits what can be done. I do think there are resonable limits. Like banning 50 caliber rifles. I'm pretty sure that letting anyone buy a sniper rifle that can hit someone a kilometer away isn't a good idea.

Some government regulation is okay, some is outdated, some isn't a good idea. I think regulations are something that will never be perfect.

I'm not a fan of taxes, but we are probably stuck right now because the deficits are pretty bad.

I'm really not pro-military. Our country is way over-militarized. I don't think we need to spend the same amount on our military as every other country in the world combined. I think this weakens the U.S. economically in the long run an a weak economy is a greater threat than a weakened military. Can't really cut it during the Iraq fiasco though.


Allyson - Mar 10, 2006 5:50:32 am PST #3178 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm really not pro-military.

Things are much more complex than that, Gud. Most of the science funding my group gets is from the military. The military funds some great science.


Sean K - Mar 10, 2006 5:51:32 am PST #3179 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I'm not a fan of taxes, but we are probably stuck right now because the deficits are pretty bad.

This is one inparticular that's always left me feeling like the imposter among humans. I know nobody likes the government taking part of their paycheck, but taxes help pay for things we all need.

Or should, anyway.

I wouldn't even call them a necessary evil. Just a necessary annoyance. But I also think that the people who should be complaining about how much money they have to pay in taxes are the rich, especially the super-rich, and large corporations.

Exactly the people who fund right-wing campaigns so that they don't ever have to.