If you'll excuse me, I have to go collapse and try to keep my head from exploding in fury and WTF-ness.
And again, I repeat, Laurell and reality really don't have a good relationship. She lives in her own little bubble of happiness...
Zoe: What's that, sir? Mal: Freedom, is what. Zoe: No, I meant what's that? Mal: Oh. Yeah. Just step around it. I think something must've been living in here.
'Out Of Gas'
Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
Barb - Jul 31, 2009 10:03:19 am PDT #9742 of 28388
“Not dead yet!”
Calli - Jul 31, 2009 10:10:40 am PDT #9743 of 28388
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Hmm. Evidently Jes Battis wrote a book on chosen families in Buffy and Angel.
StuntHusband - Jul 31, 2009 10:11:02 am PDT #9744 of 28388
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark
Carmilla! Dracula! Varny the Vampyre! Gahhhh!
And that's just the 19th century.
Saberhagen predates Rice, who predates Hamilton.
Barb - Jul 31, 2009 10:17:13 am PDT #9745 of 28388
“Not dead yet!”
In trying to be fair, much as it pains me, I wonder if Laurell wasn't referring to the vampire romance subgenre-- which, even there, she DID NOT PIONEER IT, but still, I wonder if that's what she was referring to.
Calli - Jul 31, 2009 10:21:07 am PDT #9746 of 28388
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Maybe she was referring to vampire romance. I think Chelsea Quinn Yarboro's St. Germaine series was an earlier version of that subgenre.
Hmmm. I really enjoyed those books. Maybe I should try rereading one or two, and see if they've held up over the years.
Connie Neil - Jul 31, 2009 10:22:45 am PDT #9747 of 28388
brillig
Maybe I should try rereading one or two, and see if they've held up over the years
I got rid of my copies, but that was because I lost my taste for the vile humans and the nasty things they did.
Polter-Cow - Jul 31, 2009 10:28:10 am PDT #9748 of 28388
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
In trying to be fair, much as it pains me, I wonder if Laurell wasn't referring to the vampire romance subgenre-- which, even there, she DID NOT PIONEER IT, but still, I wonder if that's what she was referring to.
Oh yeah, I mean, clearly she can't mean she INVENTED VAMPIRES or something. But maybe she popularized vampire romance.
erikaj - Jul 31, 2009 10:45:31 am PDT #9749 of 28388
Always Anti-fascist!
I know this is because I'm following this conversation while writing Ari Gold, but suddenly I picture LKH telling Meyer about all the supernatural ass she passes up every day. Weird, I know, but it amuses me.ETA: Not as much as it would if I could picture her trailing some long-haired werewolf dude all "Baby, please, You know my ardeur is all for you...Baby? We'll go for a ride in the Mercedes...you love that, right? You can hang your head outside and everything."
Typo Boy - Jul 31, 2009 11:54:11 am PDT #9750 of 28388
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Yeah is is not just Meyer or Hamilton being kooky, ignorant and showing an oversized ego here. Rice is being pretty kooky when she claims to have pioneered the "beautiful seductive" vampire thing. In addition to Jilli's 19th century cites, what about Barnabas Collins. I seem to remember him being seductive long before Rice wrote Interview over a long drunken weekend. And I seem to remember a book called "Dark Angel" or something as a kid that was all about the sexy teenager saving the beautiful vampire and his tortured guilt-ridden soul. Genuinely evil vampire, killed many innocents, but redeemable. Hell the theme was already widespread enough for Polanski to make fun of in "The Dance of the Vampires" back in 1967. (Also called "The Fearless Vampire Killers" in the U.S.)
Volans - Jul 31, 2009 12:02:58 pm PDT #9751 of 28388
move out and draw fire
Yeah, Hammer Horror vampires were definitely sexualized.
However, Rice could say she popularized it. Hamilton can't say anything but that she cheapened the genre.