I know this is because I'm following this conversation while writing Ari Gold, but suddenly I picture LKH telling Meyer about all the supernatural ass she passes up every day. Weird, I know, but it amuses me.ETA: Not as much as it would if I could picture her trailing some long-haired werewolf dude all "Baby, please, You know my ardeur is all for you...Baby? We'll go for a ride in the Mercedes...you love that, right? You can hang your head outside and everything."
Willow: Were there dolphins? Tara: Yes. Many dolphins at the pound. Willow: Was there a camel? Tara: There was the front of a camel. A half-camel.
'Selfless'
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erikaj - Jul 31, 2009 10:45:31 am PDT #9749 of 28388
Always Anti-fascist!
Typo Boy - Jul 31, 2009 11:54:11 am PDT #9750 of 28388
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Yeah is is not just Meyer or Hamilton being kooky, ignorant and showing an oversized ego here. Rice is being pretty kooky when she claims to have pioneered the "beautiful seductive" vampire thing. In addition to Jilli's 19th century cites, what about Barnabas Collins. I seem to remember him being seductive long before Rice wrote Interview over a long drunken weekend. And I seem to remember a book called "Dark Angel" or something as a kid that was all about the sexy teenager saving the beautiful vampire and his tortured guilt-ridden soul. Genuinely evil vampire, killed many innocents, but redeemable. Hell the theme was already widespread enough for Polanski to make fun of in "The Dance of the Vampires" back in 1967. (Also called "The Fearless Vampire Killers" in the U.S.)
Volans - Jul 31, 2009 12:02:58 pm PDT #9751 of 28388
move out and draw fire
Yeah, Hammer Horror vampires were definitely sexualized.
However, Rice could say she popularized it. Hamilton can't say anything but that she cheapened the genre.
DavidS - Jul 31, 2009 12:09:35 pm PDT #9752 of 28388
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
The whole point of Lugosi's breakthrough performance as Dracula was that it was sexualized. That's where it changes from the previous Nosferatu presentation.
Typo Boy - Jul 31, 2009 12:12:16 pm PDT #9753 of 28388
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
However, Rice could say she popularized it.
Sure, we still have a lot freedom of speech in this country. But I don't think she can say it truthfully. Did more people read the book or watch the movie "Interview with the Vampire" than watched The Adams family? I wonder how Rice's popularity compares to Dark Shadows at its peak. I wonder how the total viewership (including Video rentals) for old Hammer films compared to that for Rice's (including rentals of course.) Heck, while Vampirilla probably never quite reached Lestat levels of popularity, I wonder how close she came.
DavidS - Jul 31, 2009 12:13:03 pm PDT #9754 of 28388
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I wonder how Rice's popularity compares to Dark Shadows at its peak.
Rice is much more popular. A much bigger phenomenon.
Typo Boy - Jul 31, 2009 12:15:12 pm PDT #9755 of 28388
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
And The Adams Family?
Polter-Cow - Jul 31, 2009 12:29:18 pm PDT #9756 of 28388
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
John and Abigail weren't vampires, to my knowledge.
Oh, shit, someone's going to write that book now.
Barb - Jul 31, 2009 12:31:56 pm PDT #9757 of 28388
“Not dead yet!”
But the Addams Family was comedic. It was a broad parody, to me.
With Dark Shadows, I certainly recall the idea of Barnabas being seductive, but it was still seemed to hew closely to the dark image of the vampire. I think "glamour" is actually a good word for Rice's vampires. Lestat was a very lush, colorful vampire to me.
But-- like I said, very limited in my vampire genre reading.
Barb - Jul 31, 2009 12:32:18 pm PDT #9758 of 28388
“Not dead yet!”
Oh, shit, someone's going to write that book now.
::making notes...::