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Gris - May 13, 2008 7:46:25 am PDT #5773 of 28354
Hey. New board.

Alpha-bits for the current topic: Christians of any sort were a bit of an oddity at my school, and most of those had extremely liberal interpretations of theology. It was definitely considered weird to be openly Christian in many of the circles there, but they weren't generally harassed.

The one girl who was trying to get her biology degree so as to do research that would help her disprove evolution was especially maligned, but then again she was also mean, annoying, and not especially bright. Not sure what the reaction would have been if she were a nice kid - probably quiet disbelief.


Amy - May 13, 2008 8:00:16 am PDT #5774 of 28354
Because books.

I grew up in suburban NJ, too, and religion was sort of ... something your parents made you do. There was a kind of strict divide between Jewish kids and Christian kids until high school, too.

A huge percentage of the kids I went to high school with were Catholic, and the thing to do was attend 5 p.m. mass on Saturday night, which meant collecting a program from the church and hanging out somewhere until you could safely go home and show it to your parents as proof you'd attended.

There was one group -- Young Life, I think -- that tried to make inroads for a while, and did with some kids, but it was a little ... culty-seeming to the rest of us. Most of the kids in it had "Godsquad!" written on their notebooks, and for a bunch of disaffected 80s teens who were heavily into smoking and drinking, etc., Young Life was a whole different, and not entirely appealing, world.


brenda m - May 13, 2008 8:03:40 am PDT #5775 of 28354
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I was thinking mostly about college when I first responded. In high school tons of people went to church each Sunday with their families, myself often among them. In university dorms regular attendance probably would've raised some eyebrows, though not to any greater extent than the girl who called her mother every day or the person who had a car but wouldn't give people rides.


Jessica - May 13, 2008 8:13:04 am PDT #5776 of 28354
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

At NU, the sidewalk along the main drag was pretty regularly covered in giant chalk "YAY JESUS" murals whenever one of the Christian student groups had an event. There was nobody in my immediate circle of friends who was a regular churchgoer (except for one girl who converted to Mormonism freshman year, but there was a whole complicated backstory there), but it wouldn't have been considered unusual in the general student population.


meara - May 13, 2008 8:26:40 am PDT #5777 of 28354

I went to Catholic college, so it was not at all unusual for students to go to Mass on Sundays. It was also not unusual for students to NOT go. And while excessive religiosity was a bit raised-eyebrow among the theater crowd, "excessive" was pretty loosely defined, given that several of the church-goers were gay, at least three of my friends went on to get their MDiv, and I know of at least two ministers from that group...


Kathy A - May 13, 2008 8:35:44 am PDT #5778 of 28354
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I went to Marquette, a Jesuit university, and Mass attendance was pretty high, but you didn't get the fisheye if you didn't go. You had plenty of choices for which mass to attend--Saturday evening or Sunday morning at the huge Gesu Church, Saturday midnight at one of the dorms, Sunday morning at Joan of Arc Chapel, or Sunday night at your dorm (which many of us girls went to in our pjs, since it was a single-sex dorm). There were also Baptist and other Protestant churches relatively close by or at least accessable by city bus.

If you didn't go, though, or professed yourself as atheist/agnostic, it was no big deal to most of us. The Campus Crusade for Christ people would fuss if you were out as being a/a, otherwise it wasn't anyone's business other than your own.

I do remember the rather horrified reaction one of my dorm neighbors, who was Campus Crusade, had to seeing Jesus Christ, Superstar for the first time. "That's blasphemous!!" she said while my roommate and I walked back to our dorm singing "What's the Buzz?" at full volume.


amych - May 13, 2008 8:39:02 am PDT #5779 of 28354
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

See, all y'all are making the mistake of talking about student religious behavior in real reality. The whole "closet Christian" thing doesn't exist in any known universe, but is a really common trope in the Christian fiction market, which sells the hell out of stories about how Christians are an oppressed minority.


Sue - May 13, 2008 8:40:29 am PDT #5780 of 28354
hip deep in pie

I went to a small Anglican college that rang the chapel bell several times to a day to let you know when prayer service was, and even then the religious people were ghettoized as "the God squad". Still, it was small enough that people mingled somewhat outside their groups.


Nutty - May 13, 2008 8:48:24 am PDT #5781 of 28354
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

which sells the hell out of stories about how Christians are an oppressed minority.

Oh, cry me a goddamned river.

...So to speak.


Hayden - May 13, 2008 8:50:26 am PDT #5782 of 28354
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I think Amych is dead-on. Although you can't hold higher elected office in this country without visibly and loudly being one, a certain brand of Christianity is dedicated to the premise that they are an oppressed minority.