Inara: Mal, this isn't the ancient sea. You don't have to go down with your ship. Mal: She ain't going down. She ain't going anywhere.

'Out Of Gas'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Dana - Oct 01, 2007 11:55:00 am PDT #4076 of 28222
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

That woman needs a tact transplant.


erikaj - Oct 01, 2007 12:10:01 pm PDT #4077 of 28222
Always Anti-fascist!

"I Don't know...if I knew that, would I be talking to you?" Or for the Ron White fans: "I can *get* published. You can't fix stupid."


shrift - Oct 01, 2007 12:10:12 pm PDT #4078 of 28222
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Cow-orker replied, "But do adults read these things? I mean, besides you?"

If she mentions it again, you can tell her that you should certainly hope so, as she's an award-winning author whose series has been optioned by Peter Jackson.


megan walker - Oct 01, 2007 12:12:32 pm PDT #4079 of 28222
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

"But do adults read these things? I mean, besides you?"

You could also reply "Does the name J.K. Rowling mean anything to you?"


JZ - Oct 01, 2007 12:20:40 pm PDT #4080 of 28222
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

That's tactless on an epic scale.

Also baffling.

the appeal for me, as a reader and writer, was the epic sweep of the plot and the idea that one person's actions could have a meaningful impact upon the world. She then said, "But isn't that really a teen fantasy--I mean what YA books are all about? Is there really an adult market for that sort of thing?"

Um, wha? Toss out epic sweep of plot, you eliminate fiction by everyone from Homer to Dickens to Larry McMurtry. Not to mention that tossing one person's meaningful impact also shitcans the biographies of a hell of a lot of actual human beings who were apparently not so much heroic as misguided by adolescent fantasy. So what does she consider a piece of worthwhile adult reading?

There once was a boy. He had some rough times as an adolescent, but settled down into a pleasant but largely unremarkable adulthood. He held down a moderately challenging but not dangerous job pushing papers for a local widget firm until he died of a myocardial infarction at 56. His family was pretty sad but ultimately it didn't matter much.


DavidS - Oct 01, 2007 12:21:41 pm PDT #4081 of 28222
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

There once was a boy. He had some rough times as an adolescent, but settled down into a pleasant but largely unremarkable adulthood. He held down a moderately challenging but not dangerous job pushing papers for a local widget firm until he died of a myocardial infarction at 56. His family was pretty sad but ultimately it didn't matter much.

That is an Anne Tyler novel.


amych - Oct 01, 2007 12:23:52 pm PDT #4082 of 28222
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

JZ, you forgot the long passages where he sits at the kitchen table looking regretfully into the distance while his coffee slowly gets cold. Note: be sure to put them in before the myocardial infarction, or you've got a ghost story and therefore genre cooties.


JZ - Oct 01, 2007 12:25:37 pm PDT #4083 of 28222
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

That is an Anne Tyler novel.

You take that back, you! t Anne Tyler partisan


JZ - Oct 01, 2007 12:28:41 pm PDT #4084 of 28222
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

you forgot the long passages where he sits at the kitchen table looking regretfully into the distance while his coffee slowly gets cold

Pfft. The protagonist of my worthwhile adult fiction would never sit around indulging in a wet and impractical emotion like regret. He may occasionally think back on the old days and say to himself, "My, that was a time, wasn't it?" as he takes his coffee cup out of the microwave, but he doesn't let it go beyond that. He's not living in a piece of trashy fiction, after all.


Polter-Cow - Oct 01, 2007 12:34:56 pm PDT #4085 of 28222
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Toss out epic sweep of plot, you eliminate fiction by everyone from Homer to Dickens to Larry McMurtry. Not to mention that tossing one person's meaningful impact also shitcans the biographies of a hell of a lot of actual human beings who were apparently not so much heroic as misguided by adolescent fantasy.

Yeah, I'm insanely confused as to how "epic sweep of plot" and "one person having a meaningful impact on history" are cornered by the YA market. I mean, the former alone is completely and utterly baffling.