All right, no one's killing folk today, on account of our very tight schedule.

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Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Frankenbuddha - Jun 22, 2007 9:16:34 am PDT #2954 of 28195
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I first saw that as emopunk and thought "isn't that a contradiction?"

No, but it would be redundant.

There's also splatterpunk, which I'd define as extreme horror fiction.


P.M. Marc - Jun 22, 2007 9:18:38 am PDT #2955 of 28195
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I first saw that as emopunk and thought "isn't that a contradiction?"

Emo was originally a subgenre of punk rooted in hardcore.

Hec, I am certain, can go on at length. And may already have in a crosspost.


Atropa - Jun 22, 2007 9:21:26 am PDT #2956 of 28195
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Whereas steampunk strikes me as an aesthetic rather than an attitude; and its etymology is pretty plainly modeled on cyberpunk.

There have been some pretty heated debates on steampunk communities about about how the steampunk aesthetic (translated: fashion) seems to be eclipsing all other aspects of steampunk. (The funniest comment I've seen about that so far was someone getting upset that steampunk seems to be turning into The New Goth, and that is WRONG!!11!!)

There's also splatterpunk, which I'd define as extreme horror fiction.

Yep. But the term is kinda considered an in-joke by the authors who were usually labled with it.


DavidS - Jun 22, 2007 9:22:10 am PDT #2957 of 28195
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I, for one, am ready for no words to suffix themselves with "punk" and become cooler thereby. It is so DONE, people.

One of the cosmic ironies is that hip hop was far more cyberpunk than punk ever was. Sampling is cyberpunk in action.

I first saw that as emopunk and thought "isn't that a contradiction?"

You don't think Johnny Rotten was emotional? Hatred is an emotion.

Also, knowing one of the early participants in "emocore" (Lars Hanson, drummer in Embrace) I can vouch that the coinage was originally intended as a joke. The local DC hardcore punks were ironically indulging the same suffix abuse that Nutty objects to, except adding "-core" to everything instead of "-punk."


Polter-Cow - Jun 22, 2007 9:23:11 am PDT #2958 of 28195
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

There's also splatterpunk, which I'd define as extreme horror fiction.

How extreme? Like Hostel, Part 2 or something?

Can I be Indopunk?


DavidS - Jun 22, 2007 9:23:46 am PDT #2959 of 28195
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Can I be Indopunk?

Dude, you are way more Twee Pop.


Polter-Cow - Jun 22, 2007 9:28:54 am PDT #2960 of 28195
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I feel like I should be offended.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 22, 2007 9:30:07 am PDT #2961 of 28195
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Like Hostel, Part 2 or something?

Closer to early Clive Barker (who would be the William Gibson), but Hostel-type stuff probably fits. As Jilli notes, it was a mostly parodic appellation, though I do have a splatterpunk anthology somewhere in my library.

Early Peter Jackson probably would count too, film-wise.


DavidS - Jun 22, 2007 9:34:04 am PDT #2962 of 28195
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I feel like I should be offended.

I own and love lots of Twee Pop. Embrace it. Be Twee as Fuck. Be a Monster of Twee. (It is just a subset of Indie Pop that's bit on the emo side.)


Atropa - Jun 22, 2007 9:35:40 am PDT #2963 of 28195
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Closer to early Clive Barker (who would be the William Gibson), but Hostel-type stuff probably fits. As Jilli notes, it was a mostly parodic appellation, though I do have a splatterpunk anthology somewhere in my library.

Huh, I never think of Clive as a splatterpunk author, even tho' his early stuff certainly fits. When I think splatterpunk, I think of David J. Schow, and the Dynamic Duo of John Skipp and Craig Spector, back when they WERE a Dynamic Duo and still speaking to and writing books with each other.