Closer to early Clive Barker (who would be the William Gibson), but Hostel-type stuff probably fits. As Jilli notes, it was a mostly parodic appellation, though I do have a splatterpunk anthology somewhere in my library.

Huh, I never think of Clive as a splatterpunk author, even tho' his early stuff certainly fits. When I think splatterpunk, I think of David J. Schow, and the Dynamic Duo of John Skipp and Craig Spector, back when they WERE a Dynamic Duo and still speaking to and writing books with each other.

Be Tweecore! Be A Tweehugger! There is unrest in the forest; there is trouble with the twees!

You mean emo used to mean something other than "I'm *SO* sensitive! Excuse me while I swoon."?

You may have noticed I don't make it much of a priority to stay au courant with the genres de jour.

And I suddenly seem to have gone French.

Huh, I never think of Clive as a splatterpunk author, even tho' his early stuff certainly fits. When I think splatterpunk, I think of David J. Schow, and the Dynamic Duo of John Skipp and Craig Spector, back when they WERE a Dynamic Duo and still speaking to and writing books with each other.

Yeah, that was probably a stretch on my part (probably based on stuff I read in the intro to the anthology and in a Village Voice article), but it seemed closer to what I was thinking of than the recent spate of torture porn movies.

I own and love lots of Twee Pop. Embrace it. Be Twee as Fuck. Be a Monster of Twee. (It is just a subset of Indie Pop that's bit on the emo side.)

I think of myself as more of an indie rocker than an indie popper. Well, at least in what I listen to; it's more on the loud side. I don't act Disturbed when I eat my Korn.

"Twee" sounds so derogatory when people use it.

"I'm *SO* sensitive! Excuse me while I swoon."?

No it's more "I'm *SO* sensitive! Excuse me while I thrash away on this guitar/this bass/these drums."

"I'm *SO* sensitive! Excuse me while I swoon."?

Add "While drinking absinthe and reading vampire novels by candlelight", and you've got a shorthand for goth.

No it's more "I'm *SO* sensitive! Excuse me while I thrash away on this guitar/this bass/these drums."

Yes. This is my understanding of Emo, tho' I think you need to add "While wearing skinny black jeans and a lot of eyeliner".

I'm a poor judge anyway, I think the most recent thing on my play list is Bon Jovi's "Its My Life."

"Emocore" - at least in its original, jokey conception - was commenting on a development in the DC Hardocre scene where the music moved away from the broad political statements (which had previously defined DC Hardcore) and began lyrically reflecting the emotional (usually romantic) experience of the songwriter. It was hardcore punk (very fast, very loud) but it was emotional. Hence, "emocore."

Over time and many permutations it turned into the much parodied and derided "Emo." Cry more emo boy!

I want to get back to educating, Teppy.

Can you see how how Nutty's dictionary definition of cyberpunk applies to the 9/11 terrorists?

n. An attitude characterized by radical re-use of existing tools, machines, and business processes, with the express purpose of undermining, showing up, or otherwise exploiting weaknesses in the dominant paradigm. Etymology relates to the most famous practice of cyberpunk, i.e. computer hacking.

Then just take that notion and say to yourself, "the name cyberpunk is a bit misleading."

Does that help?

Also, let's look at your presumption that "cyber" means computers and high tech.

Here's the wikipedia preface on Cybernetics.

Cybernetics is the study of feedback and derived concepts such as communication and control in living organisms, machines and organisations. Contrary to popular misconception, cybernetics is not about computers so much as computers are about cybernetics. Its focus is how anything (digital, mechanical or biological) processes information, reacts to information, and changes or can be changed to better accomplish the first two tasks.[1] A more philosophical definition, suggested in 1956 by Louis Couffignal, one of the pioneers of cybernetics, characterizes cybernetics as "the art of ensuring the efficacy of action".

eta: Tep, here's Bruce Sterling's early '80s zine Cheap truth where much of cyberpunk's manifesto was worked out.

Heh. They intended to ruffle some feathers.

As American SF lies in a reptilian torpor, its small, squishy cousin, Fantasy, creeps gecko-like across the bookstands. Dreaming of dragon-hood, Fantasy has puffed itself up with air like a Mojave chuckwalla. SF's collapse had formed a vacuum that forces Fantasy into a painful and explosive bloat.

Short stories, crippled with the bends, expand into whole hideous trilogies as hollow as nickel gumballs. Even poor Stephen Donaldson, who struggles to atone for his literary crimes with wet hippy sincerity, has been forced to re-xerox his Tolkien pastiches and doubly insult the public.

As Robert E. Howard spins in his grave, the Chryslers of publishing attach rotors to his head and feet and use him to power the presses.

But the editors have eaten sour grapes and the writers' teeth are on edge. Fantasy, for too long the vapid playground of McCaffreyite unicorn-cuddlers and insect-eating SCA freaks, has some new and dangerous borderlands. Suddenly, perhaps out of sheer frustration, fantasy has movement and color again. It is the squirming movement of corruption and the bright sheen of decay.